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I'm curious as to whether officers can be demoted like enlisted can as officers are promoted via congress so I'm wondering if demotions would be the same. Just wondering because I know if a junior enlisted gets an Article 15, a lot of times they loose rank. I've never heard of this for an officer unless they are convicted by court martial. PFC (Join to see) SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL SFC James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4" LTC Stephen F. CPL Dave Hoover SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth SSG (Join to see) Capt Dwayne Conyers CPT Jack Durish MSG (Join to see)
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LCDR Joshua Gillespie
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If it happens... it's very rare. I would also assume you'd be less likely to see it these days than earlier times perhaps. My grandfather somehow remained a second lieutenant despite regular re-assignment to new aircraft and more dangerous missions. I suspect it was because he was a pilot before the War, had no college degree, and reputedly liked to get into fights in town. My guess is that he was a "good stick" and they were short of people... or he'd have been cashiered.
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SSG Roger Ayscue
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Yes, but it requires a formal reduction board and approval at the highest levels, I saw it once, and it was accompanied by resignation from the service
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LtCol William Bentley
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This is true, but it's not a punitive reduction/demotion, it's administrative (although it may "feel" punitive...it's not, by definition). No court-martial can reduce any commissioned or warrant officer, cadet, or midshipman, as part of the sentence. There are many reasons why an officer might voluntarily accept, or be involuntarily appointed to a lower grade than held previously. But these are never "punitive" or "disciplinary" reductions, only administrative. Rule for Court-Martial 1003(c)(2)(A)(i) of Manual for Courts-Martial. Cheers,
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LTC Jason Mackay
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Under certain circumstances, a Warrant Officer may be returned to their last NCO rank. It's usually in conjunction with non selection to CW2.
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SGT Chris Padgett
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This I have seen.
Our BN commo CW2 was suddenly a SFC. He vanished shortly after and I never did hear what happened.
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SPC Merle Jantz
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My first sergeant in Korea had a story about our supply sergeant. They went back almost 20 years and this was the third time they served together. First time, early '60s, Top was an E-5 and the SS was an E-3. Then they met up in Vietnam and Top was an E-6 and SS was a W-1, and he made Top salute him. This time, 1979, Top's an E-8 and the SS was an E-6. Top said "things have a way of working themselves out."
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LtCol William Bentley
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SGT Chris Padgett - Army regs allow for the "reenlistment" of an officer who previously held Army enlisted status, and for whatever reason (there are a few) is no longer qualified to hold their commission or warrant, and have the statutory right to request reenlistment (and are still qualified to be enlisted, even if they aren't qualified to hold a commission/warrant). All such requests are Secretarial approvals. Cheers,
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I know several enlisted who became officers and after their mandatory removal date reverted back to either enlisted or warrant. Not so uncommon for reservists who can continue to gain retirement points that will be paid out at the higher rank scale.
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