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Yes. I did ILE entirely by correspondence (UGH) and got something like 150 points for it.
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LTC Chris Norton - Too true! I'm almost through the AOC portion, and I can't wait to get my life back!
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LTC Stephen Conway
OMG, Sir, It worked for you....I am in traditional ILE/CGSOC and I am going nuts. I am turning in my Operation Torch essay this morning....I am getting a lot of student interaction in class. I don't have the patience for all the online work.
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You can also get paid for it if funding is available. I got paid for finishing DL Phase 2.
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As others have said, yes. If you do them through ACCP, the points should show up "automagically" at the rate of 1 point per 3 "study hours". If you do non-ACCP, make sure it is properly tracked and recorded (1380, or whatever the process is now).
NOTE: Do NOT dispose of subcourse completion notices until you see the points credited. I spent several years "proving" my points for the DL version of ILE to the points people, despite having the 1059 in my possession.
NOTE: Do NOT dispose of subcourse completion notices until you see the points credited. I spent several years "proving" my points for the DL version of ILE to the points people, despite having the 1059 in my possession.
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COL Vincent Stoneking
Just a follow-up: This changed last summer. Now there are only very, very narrow circumstances where you can get retirement points for correspondence courses.
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Yes, ask your UA as you can get paid for some too. Be careful though as you can do a max each year for points.
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As a couple of people have mentioned, some of the courses you can also get paid for, but you are supposed to have pre-approval before you take the course. There is a course list of available Electronic Based Distance Learning (EBDL), http://www.ezarmypoints.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/EBDLcourses.pdf
Here is the link on HRC that discusses different types of points and maximum you can earn. https://www.hrc.army.mil/TAGD/Earning%20Retirement%20Points
Under the Army Correspondence Course Program, you can find a list of courses available. https://www.atsc.army.mil/tadlp/accp/index.asp
For the DoD Instruction 1215.21, Reserve Component (RC) Use of Electronic-based Distributed Learning Methods for Training, that authorizes this for the Reserve Components, http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/121521p.pdf
Here is the link on HRC that discusses different types of points and maximum you can earn. https://www.hrc.army.mil/TAGD/Earning%20Retirement%20Points
Under the Army Correspondence Course Program, you can find a list of courses available. https://www.atsc.army.mil/tadlp/accp/index.asp
For the DoD Instruction 1215.21, Reserve Component (RC) Use of Electronic-based Distributed Learning Methods for Training, that authorizes this for the Reserve Components, http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/121521p.pdf
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Excellent question 1LT A. Uribe. LTC (Join to see) is on point here.
Thought this one would be a great one for Capt Craig Gilman, GySgt George Vukovich, and PO3 John Aldrich to see.
Thought this one would be a great one for Capt Craig Gilman, GySgt George Vukovich, and PO3 John Aldrich to see.
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*Update* Did a little research on this and this is what I have. Do not know if this is the same for USAR or not.
For NG. You are allowed 130 points TOTAL for a year. 63 of those points are for drills(48 UTA's and 15 days of AT) that leaves 67 points(1 point for every 3 hrs of courseware). You can go thru either ALMS or ATRRS, but DO NOT do the E-Learning courses. NGB states they do not count at this time. Once you complete the course bring your cerificate to your FTM, and they will send to your RPAM NCO who will key them into your RPAM.
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For NG. You are allowed 130 points TOTAL for a year. 63 of those points are for drills(48 UTA's and 15 days of AT) that leaves 67 points(1 point for every 3 hrs of courseware). You can go thru either ALMS or ATRRS, but DO NOT do the E-Learning courses. NGB states they do not count at this time. Once you complete the course bring your cerificate to your FTM, and they will send to your RPAM NCO who will key them into your RPAM.
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Good catch Sir. I miss quoted that one. Its 48 for UTA's+15 for membership. The 15 day AT falls under AD time. ACCP is now ALMS. So between ALMS and ATRRS you can do online tng, and get credit for it as long as it isnt E-Learning courses.
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Dang. That's kind of unfair. I do the E-learning constantly because of all the IT courses. I have over 350 credit hours according to my ATTRS transcript (that's including all my military schooling ).
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I would have to dig a little more into the IT portion. I've also taken some courses(I don't have to worry bout points). I'm sure the E-Learning course do in some way shape or form would count towards SOME civilian certs. There is a report you can get that takes ALL of your military education and gives you a idea of what it transcribes over to for college credit.
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CW3(P) Derrick Robinson
Wouldnt that be a form of double dipping if your drilling for points and taking correspondence courses for points?
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One of the Officers in my unit just finished his DL portion of Captain Career Course and got paid and retirement points
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I had seen what you had asked, and had a couple of thoughts I didn't know if you might possibly care to consider, for whatever they might be worth. A couple of relatively little-known possibilities that might have been ones you might not have stumbled across are courses offered through both the Civil Air Patrol (CAP), e.g, the various CAP staff colleges, as well as the USCG Auxiliary. Also, the possibility of doing extension, correspondence, and/or online courses through the other services; one specific example I was aware of, at least from some years ago, was the USMC Command and Staff extension program through Marine Corps Institute (MCI), and I knew of a realy serious grad-level program given in extension through Naval War College (NWC), Newport, RI, at least many years ago. Now, also, having said that, I did actually read online at one point that USCG Auxiliary has some sort of college-based and/or university-styled training program, I believe called the USCG Auxiliary University Program (AUP); also, I did actually see mentioned online that they were able, in some fashion, to fund though I am uncertain as to more, some sort of quite-possibly in-residence (at least in part, if not in full) masters program, for their members, given somewhere near Naval Postgraduate School (NPS) in California, at least awhile back. I believe I saw that a thesis is, or was, typically done for that masters program on a topic of direct relevance to the USCG Auxiliary. However, I must emphasize that I only read about purely in passing, as well as quite some time ago, and have absolutely no idea if it is still actually operating, and/or what the conditions and/or provisions for it might be, only that I had definitely seen something about it some time back online. If it is still existing, there is quite probably a really long waiting list for it, in all likelihood, as well as, most likely, some really serious time investment required, I would expect, as a USCG Auxiliary member, before one might actually be allowed to do it, though, of course, that is purely a guess on my part, obviously. I do also recall seeing that FEMA, and I think, the Natl. Fire Academy, had some sort of online program, possibly done in conjunction with regular colleges and/or universities. Whether such training might actually be creditable in some fashion, I obviously have no idea; however, I should certainly think it might be at least documentable in some fashion, possibly on performance reports, if nothing else, which I only offer as food for thought, if you will. My wife and I hope you and/or others here found the foregoing of at least some potential interest; should you and/or they care to here any further thoughts, we would obviously be most eager to hear as well. In any event, a nice holiday and new year to everyone, as well, by all means, of course.
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Sounds like personal experience is meeting the propagation of "made up stuff." Let's defer to an SME like SFC (Join to see) accurate AND timely information.
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SFC (Join to see) - Price you pay for being so knowledgeable my friend...riding you like a rented mule!
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SFC (Join to see) - I'm not sure if it's still current, the last time I looked the cap was 75.
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1SG (Join to see) I'd have to look it up before I give a solid answer. Almost seems like every time you turn around crap changes..lol.
IDK bout the knowledgable part lol. Been doin the job for a day or 2 lol.
Stand in line for the mule riding. If I had a nickel for each ride I could have retired 5 yrs ago...lol
IDK bout the knowledgable part lol. Been doin the job for a day or 2 lol.
Stand in line for the mule riding. If I had a nickel for each ride I could have retired 5 yrs ago...lol
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LTC Bink Romanick
SFC (Join to see) My info may be dated, or my old man memory is kicking in. I retired in 2000 having served for 34 years, I am glad to have expert knowledge such as you provide. Thank you
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