Posted on Feb 14, 2021
SPC Track Vehicle Repairer
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Is there a regulation on this kind of stuff. I understand that a duty must be preformed such as CQ and Staff Duty. However in my mind it’s very dangerous to have soldiers who live 15+ minutes away from post to preform such duties when they can have someone who lives on base preform it. And have their duties switched up. Is there any regulation on this.
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SPC Steven Nihipali
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Damn man, if you can't drive in harsh conditions, sounds like a pussy way to get out of anything. Learn to! Get your ass up, walk in it, pt in it, live the fuck outta life in it... then, go home and repeat. You think people who climb mountains or retire as wildcard ff's don't train? They just get up one day and think they can climb K2?

Driving, you're in a car, if you don't have proper tires, that's your fault. Not properly pmcs'd, your fault. Can't drive in the rain, ice or snow, get your ass out there and learn!
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1SG James Kelly
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You would have been great amongst The Frozen Chosen.
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SPC Chris Ison
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I am not sure I can say yes to this.

However what I do know they can, and will do, is make your ass stay in the barracks until the safety issue is cleared up. So you need to make a decision do you want to fight this? Or do you want to shack up with some dudes in the barracks?

You have been granted permission to live off post that permission can be withdrawn at any time.
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MCPO Robert Cornish
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You have the duty, stand your duty! If you're expecting inclement weather leave your quarters earlier than normal and drive slowly. Suck it up buttercup.
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CPL John McCulley
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The shortest answer is YES!! Go ahead & miss duty or a formation because you were scared of the weather. Your chain of command will make it easy on you, move you back into the Barracks and tell you you can't live off post with your spouse. An old saying to remember is, "If you needed a wife, you would have been issued one." Make no mistake, living off post with your family is a privilege, not a right. You're a soldier (or Marine, Airman, Sailor or Gaurdian) everything you do, including living with your spouse, is at the convenience of the service, not the other way around!
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SSG Gregg Mourizen
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Edited >1 y ago
I can't count how many times I drove 30-60 minutes in blizzard conditions or fog, and toughed it out.

I would always ask, "do you have space in the barracks should I get snowed in?". Usually got them to change their minds.
However abusing conditions, such as weather, and the sympathy will go away.

Of course the not answering the phone or door things sucks when you are the guy trying to get released. I don't know how many times even the "On-Call" did that, forcing me to go through the battle roster, for an emergency (Hospitals don't shut down). Time wasted at the worst times. I have tons of examples, but when you have to call the NCOIC or another department, to get a body, it can really suck.
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TSgt Frank Csorba
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I was stationed in Loring AFB Maine 40 years ago. We had a duty to get to work no matter what. Even if you had to keep your car in creeping speed. The decision is not yours. The Base Commander had however been known to call a "down day" when the temperature dropped to -65°. Or, authorize a few hours delay when the snowplows were losing the battle with the snow. What you could do is to call your superiors and advise them of the conditions you find yourself in. They in turn will contact their Unit Commander, and they will contact.... etc. If a Commander finds himself flooded by calls of issues and reports of accidents, they would probably reassess the risks in your favor. They decide whether to risk it, or not. A decent NCO could also pick you up and take you to your work place, but be warned that there will be repercussions if he does not have the slightest bit of trouble making the trip you are shirking. If it was really bad, we would send someone with a vehicle which had the best ice handling to work, and they would return with a deuce and a half with tire chains to get everyone else. Point is there are always alternatives to try before troubling your superiors. Meanwhile invest in a set of studded snow tires. I guarantee your weather issues will be rendered moot.
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SGT Air Defense Radar Repairer
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My God has the military gone soft. I had to drive on roads a mountain goat would not venture on.
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SP5 Charles Gould
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Kid, EVERYONE in the Army is considered “Mission Essential”, as the Army (at least when I served) was to be ready and able to meet any potential threat - anywhere, anytime, period!

When I was in Vietnam, every breathing service member was armed. And if you were a clerk or a cook, had to be ready to fight just as much as my Recon Team. Sometimes we even took others with us when necessary. You repair tracked vehicles? What if you are ordered to accompany one across totally free-fire hostile territory in case of a breakdown? Or go with my Team through a hot zone to repair a tracked vehicle at an SF base so we can get wounded to a viable LZ for extraction? Yes, it is certainly dangerous, but it is YOUR JOB!
What did you think you were joining anyway? A YMCA hot rod club?
I don’t know what happened to the Army since I served, but this “gentrification”, lack of commitment to mission, and pandering to the weak-willed seems to have severely eroded not only morale, but basic operational readiness. If you are afraid to support your unit (whatever that might be) you should be either retrained or let go.
Start where you are, use what you have, do what you can.
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MSgt Janice Trojan
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I would have. I did a 360 getting onto the street. I grew up in Vegas not lots of snow or ice. I was excused. I could have walked to east gate McChord and bummed a ride to the clinic. if I was necessary. Think an officer would order and NCO to make me come in.
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