Posted on Nov 30, 2021
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A bit of context . When I say refuse to jump , I mean I don't get on the plane at all. Refuse on ground before manafest . I have a back injury and they are trying to force me to jump.
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SPC Martin Meyer
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I have a different take on this. You had to volunteer to become Airborne. If you no longer want to be a paratrooper then refuse to jump and take a transfer to a non-Airborne unit and become a Leg again.
My understanding is you can refuse to jump but then you will no longer be part of the greatest brotherhood on earth that of Airborne Troopers.
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1SG Ernest Stull
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If you have a profile good to go. You would be taken off Jump status until you got medically approved to jump. Refusing to jump is an automatic take your wings off and do the duffel bag drag to a leg unit. Remember you volunteered to jump out of perfectly good airplanes.
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PO1 Steve` Martin
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can't take leave from the brig, refuse ?
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COL Chief Operating Officer (Coo)
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There is something to be said about not making life harder than it has to be. You are really overthinking this if you posted this question. 1) Go to sick call before the day of your jump- don’t wait until the last minute 2) tell the doctor or nurse your malady. 3) follow the doctor’s guidance.
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COL Victor Hagan
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If you are injuried then seek medical treatment immediately. A PA or Doc will evaluate your condition and advise whether you should jump or not. But I would advise you to listen to your body.
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SSG Timothy Lanham
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You can always terminate jump status.
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SGT Bill Braniff
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If you refuse to jump you should be given a dishonorable discharge. Period.
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SGT Joseph Dutton
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Well for one you need to re-class and if you have MED Issues then your doctor can help in doing it for you or recommend discharge. Either Cowboy up and ride the Bull or Cowgirl up and run the Barrels.
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LCpl Kenneth Heath
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Don't do your job, don't earn your perks... simple!
If you have a back injury, then the medical section should have you on modified duty. If you're not officially on light duty, then you are expected to perform as normal. It's not up to your command to get you medically recognized, it's up to you.
(I suffered a back injury my 2nd year in and have some experience with this)
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1SG Gregory Foster
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Annual leave is earned by the Soldier. If you don’t get on the plane then you are not a jump refusal.
If you have a medical profile, you proficiency pay can be extended if commander request.
Yes the commander can approve or-disapprove you leave but it would not be in his/her best interest if denied because you’re on no jump profile.
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SSG Timothy Lanham
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Wif you do not show up for manifest you disobeyed a lawful order.
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1SG Gregory Foster
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Speaking as a 1SG and as a jumpmaster, it's not that black and white. No commander can override a medical professional's decision. Toxic leadership was allowed and welcomed when i was a young SSG, but by the time I retired they were being relieved. There are very specific step by step guidance that a jumpmaster must do on an aircraft if there is a jump refusal. I have experienced jump refusals during my tenure, but I knew beforehand that the jumper would refuse so I put them at the end of the stick.
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