Posted on Nov 30, 2021
Can the military take your annual leave away (Christmas block leave) if you refuse to jump?
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A bit of context . When I say refuse to jump , I mean I don't get on the plane at all. Refuse on ground before manafest . I have a back injury and they are trying to force me to jump.
Posted 4 y ago
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The chain of command can do a lot more than just denying leave when it comes to jump refusals.
To be honest though if you have a spinal injury you need to be put on a physical profile & be removed from jump status so you can receive treatment and heal without getting in hot water with the chain of command.
Once you receive treatment & heal as much as you’re going to heal returning to jump status is going to have to be a conversation between you and your primary care physician/neurologist.
To be honest though if you have a spinal injury you need to be put on a physical profile & be removed from jump status so you can receive treatment and heal without getting in hot water with the chain of command.
Once you receive treatment & heal as much as you’re going to heal returning to jump status is going to have to be a conversation between you and your primary care physician/neurologist.
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Do you have a med profile? Short answer, yes, the Army owns you until you ETS or retire...now having said that, common sense needs to apply. Get with JAG
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Never been on jump status, however I know about profile and the are specific. If you don't have one get one. If you have only seen a PA be referred to an orthopedic or spin specialist. If your on jump status and won't jump (give me my tax dollars back lol) but if you have physical limitations that might worsen by continuing to jump get a profile. Your post is somewhat vague. Can't imagine being punishment because of a physical issue. I would think your commander would want you at your best. Could you add more to your post so you could receive more accurate advice.
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I spent 11 1/2 years in Division and another 4 in 18th Abn Corp. I don't know what your MOS is, but let me put it this way, if you have a problem about jumping the old saying, "Shit or get off the pot" applies. Go to a leg unit. It sounds like you would be happier there.
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Oh yes, doesn't happen often on the grand scale, but there's a few reasons your CO can pull your leave and you may not have done anything wrong.
It's unfortunate, however; it happens all the time and if it's an injury that's going to prohibit you from doing your duty then you're going to stay on base until you're better, whether it's a medical discharge or just staying until you're cleared back for active status.
I can't really see a commander taking someone's leave away because they didn't go against their doctor's orders. I would very respectfully take it up the chain of command, obviously you don't want to just walk up directly to the commander's door and ask to talk to them. The head of your unit should be looking out for you and every other member and have your back when you're in the right!
I think the easiest way to look at it would be to think about boot camp and the people that were in RSP. Granted you don't have leave at that point and you're on student status, but it would basically be the same thing. They want to make sure that you don't injur yourself further one way or the other (or they should). If you've been to see a doc and they tell you that it's going to cause you harm, especially if it's going to be permanent, then those papers alone should be enough for you to be grounded! Doctor's orders are doctor's orders and I don't think I've ever seen anyone force someone to go against them.
That could be career ending depending on how badly someone is injured. There are very specific papers that say you are grounded vs. injured, I finished boot with a messed up knee and several broken ribs and they're paying now, but it didn't stop my training.
It's unfortunate, however; it happens all the time and if it's an injury that's going to prohibit you from doing your duty then you're going to stay on base until you're better, whether it's a medical discharge or just staying until you're cleared back for active status.
I can't really see a commander taking someone's leave away because they didn't go against their doctor's orders. I would very respectfully take it up the chain of command, obviously you don't want to just walk up directly to the commander's door and ask to talk to them. The head of your unit should be looking out for you and every other member and have your back when you're in the right!
I think the easiest way to look at it would be to think about boot camp and the people that were in RSP. Granted you don't have leave at that point and you're on student status, but it would basically be the same thing. They want to make sure that you don't injur yourself further one way or the other (or they should). If you've been to see a doc and they tell you that it's going to cause you harm, especially if it's going to be permanent, then those papers alone should be enough for you to be grounded! Doctor's orders are doctor's orders and I don't think I've ever seen anyone force someone to go against them.
That could be career ending depending on how badly someone is injured. There are very specific papers that say you are grounded vs. injured, I finished boot with a messed up knee and several broken ribs and they're paying now, but it didn't stop my training.
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If you are injured in a manner that you feel makes you effectively unable to jump, you have a duty to seek military medical assitance. The doctor or appropriate health care professional will assess your condition and make appropriate recommendations to your commander, who will then determine your readiness to participate in operations. Once that determination is made, you should comply or face severe disciplinary action. Loss of leave is your concern; really???
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Its the ARMY for heavens sake. They can do whatever the hell they want. Shut up and follow orders.
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Why are you still in that unit? If you are unfit you should be discharged.
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Who said you get to take Christmas leave? There are many factors in granting requests for leave. Whether or not someone jumps is the least of them. I would consider you a disciplinary problem if you don't jump unless you have a medical exemption. We sure have a candy ass military now.
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