Posted on Jun 19, 2016
Can you be so focused on inclusivity that it results in more division and hate?
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Is it me or is the current focus to be PC and inclusive resulting in more hate or perception of more hate?
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If you notice the disturbances at Trump rallies it gives voters more incentive to vote against these rioters and their leadership(?). Too bad we can't just go back to all being Americans. The pres.(?) and his followers perpetrate the hate mongering and to me it would seem like a situation that would cause more people to go out and vote against these demonstrators and their so-called progressive/communist/democratic party. Hope America wakes up before the election and gets out to vote. God help us if we get another military hater, like obama, in as Commander In Chief. We need a true American loving leader to get us back to being a great country again. Trump...2016
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It is Yin and Yang as the pendulum swings from left to right causing many to re-adjust their comfort zone until the normal swing is attained, human nature that is all. Just like dating the gal that your mother doesn't like but your dad is okey with.
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It's not just you. And this has been happening for quite awhile. Political correctness has reached the point that it has often been referred to as 'soft tyranny', in which the need for tolerance has reached the point that anything that may be viewed as intolerant is simply not tolerated. This is as frustrating to many as it is ironic and has for quite some time been fostering resentment against these protected classes that far exceeds the intolerance when we were simply allowed to have an opinion.
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Absolutely!
With the HUGE push for equality between race, sex, and sexual orientation, there are greater allowances being made to include everyone, that those that don't meet the specific demographic are being excluded which causes resentment and even further discrimination. Let's look at a couple examples of this, shall we?
The push for racial equality is one of the biggest examples of this. The rights are equal. They have been equal since the conclusion of the Civil Rights movement. However, now, there seems to be this idea that ANY offense (perceived, or literal) that involves an African American or Hispanic citizen is immediately viewed as a racial hate act. Add to the fact that no such recognition is given to the reverse, and we run into a breeding of hate and resentment. Touch that into the military, where it is INSANELY easy for a Caucasian male to fall victim to a SHARP or EO complaint for even the most minor gray area, anger and, in some cases, hatred are fostered. I literally watched an African American female bring a fellow NCO up on an EO complaint because he wouldn't go to parade rest for her, claiming that it was because of her race that he wouldn't listen. And what happened? He's now out of the Army. He wasn't at parade rest because she wasn't addressing him directly. That was it. that covers the racial issue, and touches on the sex issue.
I've seen more than one person get away with horrible things because they claimed discrimination due to being a homosexual (though the offense had NOTHING) to do with it. And then the transgender bathroom issue came up, which only aggravated the problem, because now people are claiming left and right that they are being oppressed or discriminated against because of their sexual orientation, which will consistently fall on the accused perpetrator, regardless of fault. It happens daily, and it is being ignored.
Now why is this happening? Because so many people in our society are terrified of hurting people's feelings. We have become such a soft-skinned nation that the PC warriors are winning, and hurt feelings are equated to murder. In this push for equality (which already exists), it leaves us with one main perception (which has been confirmed by "demographic representatives" of various races, and sexualities) that if you are Caucasian, middle-class, and heterosexual, you are automatically wrong. You are racists, sexist and discriminatory.
If you want my opinion: leave it alone, quit whining and bitching about your butthurt feelings, and act like an adult. 72 years ago, 18 year old men were storming beaches and walking into hell itself, and now, 18 year olds need a safe space because words hurt their feelings. And you're going to tell me that we are making progress? The rest of the world is laughing at us.
With the HUGE push for equality between race, sex, and sexual orientation, there are greater allowances being made to include everyone, that those that don't meet the specific demographic are being excluded which causes resentment and even further discrimination. Let's look at a couple examples of this, shall we?
The push for racial equality is one of the biggest examples of this. The rights are equal. They have been equal since the conclusion of the Civil Rights movement. However, now, there seems to be this idea that ANY offense (perceived, or literal) that involves an African American or Hispanic citizen is immediately viewed as a racial hate act. Add to the fact that no such recognition is given to the reverse, and we run into a breeding of hate and resentment. Touch that into the military, where it is INSANELY easy for a Caucasian male to fall victim to a SHARP or EO complaint for even the most minor gray area, anger and, in some cases, hatred are fostered. I literally watched an African American female bring a fellow NCO up on an EO complaint because he wouldn't go to parade rest for her, claiming that it was because of her race that he wouldn't listen. And what happened? He's now out of the Army. He wasn't at parade rest because she wasn't addressing him directly. That was it. that covers the racial issue, and touches on the sex issue.
I've seen more than one person get away with horrible things because they claimed discrimination due to being a homosexual (though the offense had NOTHING) to do with it. And then the transgender bathroom issue came up, which only aggravated the problem, because now people are claiming left and right that they are being oppressed or discriminated against because of their sexual orientation, which will consistently fall on the accused perpetrator, regardless of fault. It happens daily, and it is being ignored.
Now why is this happening? Because so many people in our society are terrified of hurting people's feelings. We have become such a soft-skinned nation that the PC warriors are winning, and hurt feelings are equated to murder. In this push for equality (which already exists), it leaves us with one main perception (which has been confirmed by "demographic representatives" of various races, and sexualities) that if you are Caucasian, middle-class, and heterosexual, you are automatically wrong. You are racists, sexist and discriminatory.
If you want my opinion: leave it alone, quit whining and bitching about your butthurt feelings, and act like an adult. 72 years ago, 18 year old men were storming beaches and walking into hell itself, and now, 18 year olds need a safe space because words hurt their feelings. And you're going to tell me that we are making progress? The rest of the world is laughing at us.
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I believe it does. America was once dubbed the "melting pot" because everyone came here and became an American. Now, we are so worried about offending others we have emphasized our differences rather than our oneness. A Soldier should be a Soldier; race, religion, etc. should be a non-factor. When we put such a focus on political correctness, thoughts and accusations of favoritism towards a particular group can easily lead to strife and internal division that will destroy a unit's cohesiveness.
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I absolutely agree with you--I think the PC environment has actually inhibited honest dialogue resulting in bottled up anger demonstrated in increased division and hate. Colin Powell commented on this not long ago too... but in hard pressed to find it now. Good post for thought--thanks!
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Sir can you provide some insight into the College PC and military nexus you have seen as an ROTC commander?
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The nexus between the military and the college environment is very-very interesting and honestly a challenge to try to codify.
First, I would say that we owe a great debt of gratitude to our Vietnam veteran brothers and sisters who returned to a country filled with hate for them... the children who that generation raised are now the parents of professors and grandparents of students and I believe their struggles are a large part of the reason the military today receives "thanks" and gratitude wherever we go, including on campus.
That said, comparing and contrasting the college environment with the military is not a brief endeavor--but I'll try to make it one.
College: Most of the faculty appreciates the military, but I still hear comments from professors like "war never solved anything" or even "you make me sad" said to one of my NCOs simply because he was in uniform. The concept of military service seems mostly favorable, but understanding what the military does (outside of what the news tells them) is completely lost on most. One professor in the gym spent a solid
20 minutes explaining how corrupt the government and military are because we offloaded "trillions of dollars" on pallets
in Iraq out of the back of our airplanes. He had no idea what psychological operations was or how foreign monetary devaluation in war worked... and there was no explaining it to him either, his mind was made up - all issues drove back to "bombs and Bibles"--his exact words, over and over again louder and louder. These ultra liberal professors are teaching students similar uninformed ideas in their classrooms--I've heard it from my students and directly from many of the professors (none of whom are veterans with experience and first-hand knowledge). With that said, we only face threats and vandalism from a very small contingent on campus. It is a strange union where we are both respected and untrusted. College campuses are mostly liberal where all things are always equal, everyone's opinion is equally valid and there is no real right or wrong, only opinion and individual perspective.
Now I don't think I need to contrast that too much with the military where we have absolutes (LOAC, UCMJ, ROEs, etc.), there are rights and wrongs and not everyone's opinion is equally valid.
Still, our military is a reflection of our society and in the interest of time I would say the military is adapting more to societal perspectives which is driving some of the PC issues we see today... not all change is bad, but I fear we are trying so hard to make all things equal and value all perspectives equally that we are approaching a consensus military which I believe will greatly reduce effectiveness.
Hopefully that gives some insight, I appreciate the inquiry! ...and thanks for holding down the fort in DC, I came here from Bolling and Andrews--I don't miss I-495, 295 or the crazy drivers in N. Virginia!
First, I would say that we owe a great debt of gratitude to our Vietnam veteran brothers and sisters who returned to a country filled with hate for them... the children who that generation raised are now the parents of professors and grandparents of students and I believe their struggles are a large part of the reason the military today receives "thanks" and gratitude wherever we go, including on campus.
That said, comparing and contrasting the college environment with the military is not a brief endeavor--but I'll try to make it one.
College: Most of the faculty appreciates the military, but I still hear comments from professors like "war never solved anything" or even "you make me sad" said to one of my NCOs simply because he was in uniform. The concept of military service seems mostly favorable, but understanding what the military does (outside of what the news tells them) is completely lost on most. One professor in the gym spent a solid
20 minutes explaining how corrupt the government and military are because we offloaded "trillions of dollars" on pallets
in Iraq out of the back of our airplanes. He had no idea what psychological operations was or how foreign monetary devaluation in war worked... and there was no explaining it to him either, his mind was made up - all issues drove back to "bombs and Bibles"--his exact words, over and over again louder and louder. These ultra liberal professors are teaching students similar uninformed ideas in their classrooms--I've heard it from my students and directly from many of the professors (none of whom are veterans with experience and first-hand knowledge). With that said, we only face threats and vandalism from a very small contingent on campus. It is a strange union where we are both respected and untrusted. College campuses are mostly liberal where all things are always equal, everyone's opinion is equally valid and there is no real right or wrong, only opinion and individual perspective.
Now I don't think I need to contrast that too much with the military where we have absolutes (LOAC, UCMJ, ROEs, etc.), there are rights and wrongs and not everyone's opinion is equally valid.
Still, our military is a reflection of our society and in the interest of time I would say the military is adapting more to societal perspectives which is driving some of the PC issues we see today... not all change is bad, but I fear we are trying so hard to make all things equal and value all perspectives equally that we are approaching a consensus military which I believe will greatly reduce effectiveness.
Hopefully that gives some insight, I appreciate the inquiry! ...and thanks for holding down the fort in DC, I came here from Bolling and Andrews--I don't miss I-495, 295 or the crazy drivers in N. Virginia!
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Short answer is yes. Political correctness is the single greatest threat to America there is.
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PC will get you killed. You will either say something to the wrong person, who will take offense, and then because they are too weak, will go around you and make your making a living harder, or try to get you fired. (Sometimes you just need to pay attention to the weenies who will win by attrition) Trying to be so PC that you try not to offend anyone, what happens in a war situation? Bullets don't care, bombs don't care, so why would any soldier really care? Call it like you see it, and stop worrying about hurting someone's feeling, growing up and dealing with it is better for you.
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This is a great question but the PC label and all labels are the problems. Not too long ago we were all Americans and all included. The civil rights movement was greatly needed as mindless people could not see humans through God's eyes. If we simply looked at everyone through God's eye and believed we are are equal and have the same rights- the pendulum of diversity would not swing to the extremes.
By creating labels, the PC crowd thinks the best way to solve the problem is not talk about it - we should all know that is swinging the pendulum to far.
Why not address the root cause and see if we can fix them.
By creating labels, the PC crowd thinks the best way to solve the problem is not talk about it - we should all know that is swinging the pendulum to far.
Why not address the root cause and see if we can fix them.
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I wouldn't say "hate" as much as impatience. People seem to be going to extremes to be inclusive and are so busy trying to say the right thing that they just lose the ability to communicate. It's frustrating.
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