Posted on Jun 9, 2014
Can you earn and wear the Foreign Jump Wings from another country that hosted the event without going through the Basic Airborne School?
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Even if you have completed Basic Airborne Training you still can't jump unless you are on Airborne duty (jump status). But if the first general officer can approve permissive jump to airborne qualified who are not on jump status.
AR 600–8–22 , 9–26. Foreign badges,
e. Foreign airborne training. Soldiers not currently assigned to airborne duty, but who have completed basic airborne training, are prohibited from attending foreign airborne training courses, participating in foreign airborne operations, or wearing of foreign parachute badges. However, exceptions are permitted under the Army’s Permissive Parachuting Program. The first General Officer in a Soldier’s chain of command can approve permissive jumps. Soldiers who complete an approved permissive jump and are awarded a foreign airborne badge under this status may wear the badge permanently.
AR 600–8–22 , 9–26. Foreign badges,
e. Foreign airborne training. Soldiers not currently assigned to airborne duty, but who have completed basic airborne training, are prohibited from attending foreign airborne training courses, participating in foreign airborne operations, or wearing of foreign parachute badges. However, exceptions are permitted under the Army’s Permissive Parachuting Program. The first General Officer in a Soldier’s chain of command can approve permissive jumps. Soldiers who complete an approved permissive jump and are awarded a foreign airborne badge under this status may wear the badge permanently.
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This is a bit of a sore point for me because I was in the Chilean Air Force (seemingly a lifetime ago) and I earned my Jump Wings there.
Problem is, the US Army does not have Chile listed as a country whose wings I can wear.
Pisses me off to no end.
Problem is, the US Army does not have Chile listed as a country whose wings I can wear.
Pisses me off to no end.
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MAJ Javier Rivera
Pretty much! Is not if you completed but with who. In order to wear a foreign skill badge two things ought to happen: 1) you have completed the U.S. equivalent or 2) there is not an equivalent therefore you potentially will be allowed to wear it. I had a Soldier who is former Mexican Army paratrooper and I had to send him to Fort Benning as well.
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PO2 Laurence Batterson
My son who was with the B/CO 4BCT 1-508 PIR 82ABN. Jumped with the Chilean Airborne force when they were at Ft. Bragg. He was awarded Chilean Jump wings and was approved to wear with his Class A.
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SGT Daniel Rocco Ames
PO2 Laurence Batterson You can wear Chilean wings for sure. I think his issue is his were awarded before he was a member of the US Army.
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SFC Greg Bruorton
A bit irksome, in other words. But hang in and keep your chin down and feet together.
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In the capacity to wear the foreign badge on the US Army uniform, one must be a BAC graduate and on jump status. However, as SSG(P) Martinez Alfonso stated there is an exception to policy. I had a friend while in the 3rd Inf Div in Germany who worked for the 3rd MP Co and was Airborne qualified seeking his Sr Parachutist designation, was granted permissive status by the first ADC(S) of 3rd Inf Division at that time.
There are civilian organizations that if you have the money and a valid passport you can jump with foreign military and receive that countries wings. Done this way you cannot wear those wings on the US Army uniform.
There are civilian organizations that if you have the money and a valid passport you can jump with foreign military and receive that countries wings. Done this way you cannot wear those wings on the US Army uniform.
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CW2 (Join to see), if you're still wondering about this, ask SFC Richard Haugh. He has earned seven foreign jump wings!
https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/what-is-your-all-time-favorite-foreign-jump-wings-you-ve-earned-or-now-desire-to-earn
https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/what-is-your-all-time-favorite-foreign-jump-wings-you-ve-earned-or-now-desire-to-earn
What is your all time favorite Foreign Jump Wings you've earned or now desire to earn? |...
Loved earning my Silver Wings back in 1981 - but really love earning my 7 foreign jump wings thereafter... My all time FAVORITE is the Royal Thai Army Jump Wings... not the newest ones - I am talking the hand sewn with the King's Gold thread before 1990s RTA Parachutist wings...
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SFC Richard Haugh
SSG(P) Alfonzo covered it perfectly... also keep in mind you want to keep a certified copy of the jump manifest and the certificates given - the PAC clerk will need this... keep in mind my final jump was back in 2001. As stated once off jump status special approval is needed... usually comes with a cost or them wanting to get in on your deal. I am sure things have changed since my times where its getting harder.
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Thank you for the insight. I wanted clarifications after reading AR 600–8–22 on Foreign Badges.
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No. You can't even conduct a jump without going through Airborne school let alone conduct a jump with foreign paratroopers.
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I just stumbled across this. First, I have no foreign wings - I waited and pussed out. But "yes" theoretically you COULD go to (out of pocket) the EU jump school as a "civilian volunteer" at IMATS.eu and theoretically "earn" foreign wings. You could "then" run your certificate up to DA for approval as a foreign award. We had some reserve SF and riggers that did out-of-pocket "friendship" jump back in my unit in the 1990s that got their foreign wings blessed off - I do remember that. But wow, JUMPING through some hoops. As a retireed Id love to do a friendship jump but OMG - I got better things to spend $$$ on.
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John H Green Jr
I recently attended a BAC at the National Parachute Test Center in FL. (Pre covid) for about $1000 you went through a basic airborne course run by x us army jump masters. You got 6 jumps and for a little extra could get 3 foreign jump wings. I am now a volunteer in the Maryland Defense Force, I found this program because Ohio Military Reserve used it to issue there own wings.
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So, how does the reference apply to naturalized citizens who previously attended parachutist training in their native country? Or for Americans who previously earned their USPA license and were proficient in static line freefall?
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No. You have to be on some sort of orders. That been said, if you do it on your own -no military affiliated- is another issue.
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