Posted on Jan 2, 2019
Stanley Isma
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I'm wondering if I could still finish while pregnant
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SFC Human Resources Specialist
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That’s a way to start a conversation here
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SFC Retention Operations Nco
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Aren't you a guy???
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Stanley Isma
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WO1 (Join to see) I'm saying right!
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Stanley Isma
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And ya I'm asking for somebody
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LTC Executive Officer To Afc A Co S G 3/5/7
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We must think along the same wavelength.
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CSM Darieus ZaGara
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Ditto! At least clarify when you speak for someone else.
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Well there’s a whole lot more information that we need but generally, you are required to have a negative pregnancy test 30 days prior to attending the vast majority of Army schools such as BCT, AIT, OCS the list goes on. If you get pregnant in those types of courses, especially BCT and AIT you have violated the fraternization policy and can be administratively disciplined and even face UCMJ action. Most likely if you are a first term Soldier in your initial training they’ll just boot you out.
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SSG Lyle O'Rorke At BCT and OCS fraternization policies include other students and as they are resident courses you’re not allowed outside BN footprint until you get passes. But that’s in the Infantry world at Benning. I don’t know about other MOS’s and their AIT’s. But as a general rule I don’t believe many initial entry schools allow it. But again the situation that was presented was broad and a broad answer was the best one without knowing more about the situation.
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SSG Lyle O'Rorke
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CPT (Join to see) I understand that sir. I was intel. We had a 5 month AIT. The enlisted Training is/was done in phases. The first three are Basic. At AIT students are restricted to unit/post foot print for phase 4 but during phase 5 and 5+(20 weeks in service) they are allowed to drink/smoke (some schools), drive, take 3 day passes like non training soldiers and the like. It is due to these schools not being the norm for most of the military and these soldiers, had they gone into a more common MOS (admin, mechanic, or combat arms) would have been in their units already. When I was a PSG in tradoc we had soldiers leaving that had pinned SPC in our school house but still had a few months at another AIT just to be MOS qualifies. These are the exceptions but Tradoc does allow pregnant soldiers to do AIT because of these cases. Local schools can and do add on to the rules like you mentioned to accommodate for their mission and shorter school length
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SSG Lyle O'Rorke Oh yeah that’s very different then
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Gentlemen, this will be a commanders decision. There are three approaches to this. The Soldiers status is important.
1. Is she married? 2. Did she get pregnant by violating 350-6 by having a prohibited relationship? 3. How does that affect her meeting physical fitness standards to meet course requirements (Required APFT)? Note: this wouldn't be a factor if she meets the standard in 350-para 5-10c(2).

Bottom line is that there is nothing that states a female Soldier should be separated if she becomes pregnant in AIT, unless it was through a prohibited relationship and sexual contact by trainee to trainee, trainee to Drill Sergeant, Trainee to Army civilian, Trainee to Permanent Party Soldier, . Now those relationships are considered misconduct and violate 350-6. If she got pregnant by a husband or got pregnant from a boyfriend while home on exodus, then will be left up to the commander to decide if separation is necessary due to pregnancy from husband or an at home boyfriend.

Just my thoughts.

1. Policy Letter 17: That prohibits any conduct of a personal nature. Such interactions are prohibited both on and off post regardless of one's duty status.

2. AR 635-200 para 11-3b: Enlisted women who become pregnant while still in entry-level status—(1) Will be involuntarily separated under this chapter when the training activity commander with separation authority, in conjunction with the medical officer (obstetrician), determines that they cannot fully participate in the required training for the MOS concerned because of their physical condition.

TR 350-6 para 5-10c(2): Administer the record APFT no later than the last two weeks of training, to determine if the Soldier has achieved the APFT standard for graduation (60 points in each of the three events; 180 minimum total points). Soldiers who cannot complete the final APFT due to a temporary medical profile and have successfully completed a diagnostic APFT during AIT (scored 60 points minimum on each of the three events on the same test) may be given credit for having passed the APFT requirement. Commanders have the authority to award credit to Soldiers passing the diagnostic APFT based on the Soldiers performance and recommendation from the chain of command.
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