Posted on Aug 5, 2020
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Earlier this year I attended SFAS, I made it through the course but sadly was non-selected In the end. Now I am considered attending RASP to become an Army Ranger. Is it possible to also get non-selected from RASP even though I completed and passed all the training/events or does everyone that makes it through to the end become rangers? If so do they give return dates?
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SFC Retention Operations Nco
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You could be, but it’s more like a self selection process. I’ve personally never seen or heard of a non-select, but plenty of selectees are separated out within the first year of making it into Battalion.
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CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025
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SGT (Join to see) Some senior non-SF selectees are accepted by awg.army.mil.

They prefer senior experienced enlisted types and experienced officers.

AWG is also a select group. Perhaps a AWG that is a Rally Pointer will PM upon seeing my comment.
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SGT Chemical Biological Radiological Nuclear (Cbrn)
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In theory, yes, but I’ve never seen it happen. If you make it through, you’ll get selected.
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Can you get non-selected at RASP?
SFC James Cameron
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Was it a Non-Select DNR? If not, why not fix whatever deficiencies you had at Mackall and return with a better understanding of the course? You may find that your previous failure has made you into a better Candidate.

The reason I ask is that Group and Regiment have two decidedly different, specialized missions. Which mission do you want to do?
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I was given a 2 year return date. I like both of their roles in the army but honestly prefer becoming a ranger a little more. As much as I want to go back and try again and become a green beret it’s still been a dream of mine to serve in the regiment.
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COL Deputy G2
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You pass you become a member of the battalion- becoming a Ranger is a whole other pain. But yes. 99.99% of the time if you pass you go. There are always anomalies- like you pass but your such a jerk they don’t want you to screw up the unit with your attitude. Either way, if you want it go get it. Good luck.
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1LT W. Ashford
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Yes but remember your assessment is more about your bearing, soldiering and professionalism...if you a wannabe hero it will be noted and it will definitely follow.
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SFC Observer   Controller/Trainer (Oc/T)
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Yes, some are non-selects as NCO’s and officers. I’ve seen non-selects as high as company commander. Curious how you would plan on going as a 13B. You would have to reclass and then attend.
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Chris Laws
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Curious why did you get Non selected at sfas?
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Chris Laws
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What do you think you need to improve on? Did you follow a prep program to prepare you?
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SGT Gunner
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I think because it was my time as team leader I wasn’t as vocal or in charge as I should’ve been and I wasn’t as physically strong as the others. To prepare myself I’ve been volunteering in more leadership positions and physically preparing myself more. Chris Laws
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Chris Laws
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How physical is it? Like are guys just studs able to run 5-6min miles for many miles or is it just resiliency and grit? I see so many programs but don’t know what to follow. How old are you if you don’t mind me knowing
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It is physically demanding. I’m in my mid 20s. Most of the guys that go there are PT studs. There is a lot of running and rucking involved. I would follow a program that works out your back, legs, and grip strength. Also work on endurance workouts. A lot of it is mental strength too. Chris Laws
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MSG Allan Davis
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It could happen in theory but I’ve never seen it. If you get through and “up to Bat” you need to wrap your mind around the fact that the daily operational tempo at the Reg can quickly turn into Self unselection. Most think Ranger school is the hard part. It is isn’t, staying at the Reg is much harder. The only person who can get in your way at RASP or the Reg is you. Every man on his own to tab or cast.
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CSM Michael Chavaree
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Do they take your MOS?
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SGT Gunner
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No I’m currently at 13B (cannon crew member) but I’m trying to reclass into 11B
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CSM Michael Chavaree
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Okay, get after it!SGT (Join to see)
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