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I recently PCS'd to Fort Hood. This is my first duty station as I was prior reserves. I was initial told that I could take Permissive TDY for 10 days to return home and move my family and good down. Now I am being told that I have to request a 4 day pass to do the move? Any advice is appreciated.
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Normally permissive TDY is approved by your previous unit, not the gaining one. It's usually provided for in the remarks block of your PCS leave form with dates for travel, leave, and permissive TDY. If it was not approved before departing your previous unit, you're basically at the mercy of your new unit. Also needs to be approved by a LTC or higher.
Edit: To address original question under permissive TDY, it really doesn't matter where you go. It is intended for house hunting, but no one is checking up on you.
Edit: To address original question under permissive TDY, it really doesn't matter where you go. It is intended for house hunting, but no one is checking up on you.
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LTC Stephan Porter
Unless the regulation has changed, PTDY can only be “approved” by the gaining command.
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SFC Marc W.
LTC Stephan Porter I've used PTDY twice in the past 3 years, previous to that I was denied permissive TDY by gaining unit because it wasn't done in the manner I described above.
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Permissive TDY is like leave. You should be able to go and get your family during that time.
Talk to your PL and, if necessary, your 1SG and then CO. This should be an easy resolution.
Talk to your PL and, if necessary, your 1SG and then CO. This should be an easy resolution.
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MSG Johnathan Mathes
The bottom line for travel restrictions is this: the Army does not have a mileage restriction on the distance a Soldier may travel, but individual Fort Hood units most likely have published leave and pass policies and/or standard operating procedures that address the issue. Prior to making arrangements for travel, Soldiers should consult their unit for published guidance that establishes a mileage restriction for travel.
Most Fort Hood units require Soldiers who intend to travel outside of the mileage restriction to submit a DA Form 31, Request and Authority for Leave (Mileage Pass), to their chain of command for approval prior to departure for travel. Usually this is done in case something happens a car breaks down or any other unforeseeable incidents
Most Fort Hood units require Soldiers who intend to travel outside of the mileage restriction to submit a DA Form 31, Request and Authority for Leave (Mileage Pass), to their chain of command for approval prior to departure for travel. Usually this is done in case something happens a car breaks down or any other unforeseeable incidents
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MSG,
This is accurate. As far as I know it also includes a vehicle inspection prior to any leave or pass.
This is accurate. As far as I know it also includes a vehicle inspection prior to any leave or pass.
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SSG Jose M. Hernandezsanchez
MSG Johnathan Mathes - I had to do this when I was stationed at Fort Campbell when I went to visit my family up in Maryland. I also had to submit a POV inspection sheet which was the usual procedure during 4-day weekends.
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It is found I. AR 600-8-10 and you have been told correctly in reference to permissive TDY not being authorized for this ( unless special conditions exist and are in your orders). Here is an except of paragraph 5-32.
"For house hunting (absence to hunt for a house or other dwelling incident to a PCS move CONUS or OCONUS)"
Now IMO taking a 4 day pass is not the answer. Ordinary leave and or PCS travel days (depending on wording in your orders) is the correct answer.
"For house hunting (absence to hunt for a house or other dwelling incident to a PCS move CONUS or OCONUS)"
Now IMO taking a 4 day pass is not the answer. Ordinary leave and or PCS travel days (depending on wording in your orders) is the correct answer.
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SFC Clark,
That's what I found in the reg as well. I was given a 4 day pass without mileage restrictions to complete my move. Luckily I can get it done in that time frame. It seems as if coming over from the reserve side has caused a multitude of problems that we are currently trying to hash out. I appreciate your feedback.
That's what I found in the reg as well. I was given a 4 day pass without mileage restrictions to complete my move. Luckily I can get it done in that time frame. It seems as if coming over from the reserve side has caused a multitude of problems that we are currently trying to hash out. I appreciate your feedback.
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This is his first RA duty station, so there is no previous unit to grant leave. 10 days PTDY is offered for getting your housing settled, which certainly can include executing a DITY move. The 10 days, however, are not "free." They will take it out of your personal leave, going into the hole if needed. Your PSG is likely trying to help conserve your personal leave by putting you on a pass. If you need the days to get this done, then take them.
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i really wish people would take time to read regulations and stop posting on WHAT THEY THINK REGS SAY vs what they actually say... talk with the PLT SGT/1SG let them help you figure out the right path vs getting told .. oh but there is a mileage limit on passes ... your command sets up that with safety in mind.. they can get you there the best way
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