Posted on Dec 23, 2018
Can you track a soldier's location on Find My Friends?
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Can you track a soldiers location via find my friends? Is there any law that states you cannot? Currently in Korea and would make accountability on weekends much easier.
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What is the compelling need for you to "track" subordinates during non duty hours?
If they are on call, phone trees have worked since the 80's when folks had landlines and pagers, and before. If the CoC wants to be able to recall people, that is the best option.
Unless you're providing the phones, I believe you'll find you, and the COC lack the authority to demand Sokdiers per.it themselves to be tracked through the use of their personal property.
As others have suggested, seek legal counsel, as this seems to be well beyond any lawful authority. If accountability is needed to that level, the commander should restrict everyone to the unit area and hold formations throughout off duty hours.
I suggest that even asking Soldiers to do this will draw much unwanted attention from the likes of the IG, Members of Congress, media, etc.
If they are on call, phone trees have worked since the 80's when folks had landlines and pagers, and before. If the CoC wants to be able to recall people, that is the best option.
Unless you're providing the phones, I believe you'll find you, and the COC lack the authority to demand Sokdiers per.it themselves to be tracked through the use of their personal property.
As others have suggested, seek legal counsel, as this seems to be well beyond any lawful authority. If accountability is needed to that level, the commander should restrict everyone to the unit area and hold formations throughout off duty hours.
I suggest that even asking Soldiers to do this will draw much unwanted attention from the likes of the IG, Members of Congress, media, etc.
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I'm going to skip the legal reference on this and go straight to the point of this being an extremely weak leadership tactic. Do the Soldiers have to be micromanaged that much that you have to resort to tracking them by gps? Call Lowjack, maybe they can cut you a deal.
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SFC Marc W.
It was actually a reference towards the policy maker, not the policy enforcer. Do you not think another NCO would understand stupid officer policies? Give me a little credit, I'm active, not a 3 year 80's veteran talking about 'back in his day'.
This sounds like on over achieving west pointer, have you gone above their head on this? Requiring soldiers to be woken up at 2300 and 0100 just to prove they're in bed is beyond ridiculous and more of in the harassment line.
Pro-tip, if you provide more than two lines of information people can better assist as well, don't copy and paste answers, just create a new reply and tag people. Or you yourself can ask clarifying questions if you're assuming someone is attacking you. Don't put a tone to text, it just causes confusion.
This sounds like on over achieving west pointer, have you gone above their head on this? Requiring soldiers to be woken up at 2300 and 0100 just to prove they're in bed is beyond ridiculous and more of in the harassment line.
Pro-tip, if you provide more than two lines of information people can better assist as well, don't copy and paste answers, just create a new reply and tag people. Or you yourself can ask clarifying questions if you're assuming someone is attacking you. Don't put a tone to text, it just causes confusion.
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SSG (Join to see) The only way to accurately report (have legitimate accountability) is to have a recall formation. I don't know the circumstances requiring Soldier's location at 2300 and 0100 during non duty hours, however, apps can be manipulated, and phones can be left at home/barracks, or with another person. The problem with the use of technology, even phones, is if someone is reported accounted for in a specific location, where they aren't, and something subsequently happens to them where they actually are.
I hope the CoC is coming in at 2300 and 0100 for these accountability formations.
I hope the CoC is coming in at 2300 and 0100 for these accountability formations.
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Roger 1SG. It’s curfew policy here in Korea right now. Trust me, majority of the leadership are not big fans of the times. We went by text but it was deemed not credible because of the lack of trust. Now it’s video call or face to face at those said times. CoC, especially the 1SG, are very involved. Just the few in Korea that mess up is hurting the rest of the soldiers. 1SG (Join to see)
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SSG (Join to see) that's how it happens. Considering that, physical eyes on is the only way to have accountability.
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For issued phones, probably fine (would still suggest a legal opinion) however, for a phone that is the SM's personal property, a big, resounding NO without their prior written permission, and even then, I still say no, all it does is tell you where the phone's at. If accountability on weekends is that big a problem, then possibly have a morning formation and evening formation.
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