Posted on May 14, 2015
Combat Pistol: Marines vs Army: Comparison?
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Marines Shooting the Combat Pistol Program Course of Fire
Marines shooting the Combat Pistol Program course of fire aboard Marine Corps Air Station Cherry Point. Video by Cpl. Hector de Jesus | Marine Corps Air Stat...
I was looking at both the Army and Marine method of combat pistol. To be quite frank I think the Marines have a better handle on this. What so you think?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU17hG4zZvw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU17hG4zZvw
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The video showed a pretty basic class. I'm sure even the marines will agree that more range time is always needed. With that said, both branches have more advanced classes. It all really depends on the program and the instructors. The best marksmanship class I ever had was after 22 years of service, and I had been through several courses and training programs. I have trained with all four branches (5, if you count the coasties augmenting in with the navy), each has it areas, where they excel.
If you want to say, the basic course for one might be better than the others, then I have to say, the only ones qualified, are the ones who have been through both programs.
I have seen members of both Army and Marines that can either hot dead on, or miss the whole side of the barn.
The one thing I like about the training shown in the video, was the emphasis on a proper draw. I have seen enough idiots, military or otherwise, who accidentally shot himself or his buddy while drawing.
What I do know is that everyone has room for improvement, no matter who is giving the course.
If you want to say, the basic course for one might be better than the others, then I have to say, the only ones qualified, are the ones who have been through both programs.
I have seen members of both Army and Marines that can either hot dead on, or miss the whole side of the barn.
The one thing I like about the training shown in the video, was the emphasis on a proper draw. I have seen enough idiots, military or otherwise, who accidentally shot himself or his buddy while drawing.
What I do know is that everyone has room for improvement, no matter who is giving the course.
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The pistol is a last ditch weapon, when the enemy had gotten to close for rifle.
Better to:
1) Not be seen,
or
2) Have cover & distance.
* Reconnaissance & behind lines, & Black ops, of course being the exceptions.
Better to:
1) Not be seen,
or
2) Have cover & distance.
* Reconnaissance & behind lines, & Black ops, of course being the exceptions.
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You lost me at shooting from the hip. That’s just stupid at the cyclic rate. Unless you’re an MP chances are you’ll never draw from the holster in a combat situation. So..... your criticism is sophomoric at best.
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Pistols are good as a backup, for MPs and OODs in garrison. Never spent much time training with the pistol aside from Embassy Duty.
Marksmanship while important isn't the same as combat pistol training, movement,cover,changing targets and target acquisition are key components of that type of training
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I can't comment to the effectiveness of the Army program, but the Marine Corps combat shooting program is pretty decent. Some of the comments mentioned questions the hands up...this is a hand-to-hand scenario where firearm use is warranted. This is not our primary firearm so this needs to be understood. These techniques are also used to provide secondary options when a tactical reload for your primary weapon isn't an option. This video shows the techniques applied without the background context of the mindset behind the methodology. You can open source search the program for more details: http://www.trngcmd.marines.mil/Units/Northeast/Weapons-Training-Battalion/Marksmanship-Program-Management-Section/Combat-Pistol-Program/
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I like the headgear for the safeties, being all day out there that the best protection. Also they are not wearing full battle gear, not every time we get attack are we wearing everything.
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