Posted on Nov 15, 2021
What regulation or policy can help protect me from being pulled from school to attend a range?
5.23K
40
12
3
3
0
I started BLC today and my NCOIC is saying that my command team wants my SGL number so they can arrange something to pull me from class so I can go qualify at the 249 range. I think this is absolutely wrong. I shouldn’t be put on any ranges while I’m in school. This will take away from learning for me. Our class is fast pace so every bit of information is critical.
This isn’t the first time my unit does dumb shit like this.
Just two weeks ago the LTS were making people cancel and reschedule their appointments to meet their numbers for the m4 qualifications. I was one of those stupid people who canceled their appointment.
Is there’s anything to protect me from being pulled from school to attend a range?
The crazy thing is that I had the chance to qualify before I started BLC but because the LT wanted to schedule ammo pickup the same morning go the range; we didn’t get to attend the range (another units) until they were just about done. We didn’t get to zero, we didn’t qualify. We spent an hour there. All due to their poor planning.
What can I do to not be pulled from class?? I think this is crazy.
This isn’t the first time my unit does dumb shit like this.
Just two weeks ago the LTS were making people cancel and reschedule their appointments to meet their numbers for the m4 qualifications. I was one of those stupid people who canceled their appointment.
Is there’s anything to protect me from being pulled from school to attend a range?
The crazy thing is that I had the chance to qualify before I started BLC but because the LT wanted to schedule ammo pickup the same morning go the range; we didn’t get to attend the range (another units) until they were just about done. We didn’t get to zero, we didn’t qualify. We spent an hour there. All due to their poor planning.
What can I do to not be pulled from class?? I think this is crazy.
Posted in these groups: 
Basic Leaders Course (BLC formerly WLC PLDC)
Career Counselor
Basic Leaders Course (BLC formerly WLC PLDC) Career Counselor
Posted 4 y ago
Responses: 8
This is absolutely not okay. You are temporarily assigned to the NCOA to attend BLC, not attend ranges for your unit. You should immediately notify your SGL about this. If your SGL is unavailable, ask to speak with the senior SGL or Commandant of the NCOA.
(10)
(0)
SFC (Join to see)
Exactly. I would have never allowed this nor would I allow a unit to contact one of my instructors directly.
(1)
(0)
7
7
0
You are on orders and asigned to the school. Your chain of command is the academy, not your unit.
(7)
(0)
6
6
0
I once had a 1SG who 'scored' AFPTs for my Scout Sect/Plt when we were deployed overseas.
He could have just submitted a Memorandum for Record, but it was all about the numbers.
After a couple of months he was assigned by battalion to give a class on Ethics - Go figure.
He could have just submitted a Memorandum for Record, but it was all about the numbers.
After a couple of months he was assigned by battalion to give a class on Ethics - Go figure.
(6)
(0)
2
2
0
The good idea will always come around. You should have been briefed that you are attached to the school house for this course. Just speak to your instructors and let them know your situation. I'm sure they see it all the time.
(2)
(0)
1
1
0
Your command will call the SGL, the SGL will tell them that you belong to the school during that time and refer them to the Commandant if they have further questions. The Commandandant will refer to your Division CSM who will explain "place of duty" and inquire why your command team's planning is so poor that missing one single SPC will break all their plans.
Army courses have a certain percentage of course instruction you are authorized to miss before automatically failing. The shorter the course, the less time you can miss. The amount of time you can miss in BLC is something like 2-4 hours before being dropped from the course. It takes an endorsement from your CG to get back in if you are. Do not leave your class
Army courses have a certain percentage of course instruction you are authorized to miss before automatically failing. The shorter the course, the less time you can miss. The amount of time you can miss in BLC is something like 2-4 hours before being dropped from the course. It takes an endorsement from your CG to get back in if you are. Do not leave your class
(1)
(0)
0
0
0
Absolutely they cannot do that. If it was something major like a falsified application for the course or you were deploying, I could understand, but as others have stated you are assigned to that schoolhouse and you have orders. They can't order you to do squat, and if they try, every leader in your unit that has a part in that should be relieved.
(0)
(0)
0
0
0
They can try, and may succeed. Variables and local situation apply. There should be no prejudice regarding future if it was Command dictated. I hope.
(0)
(0)
SFC (Join to see)
They won’t succeed unless the commandant bends over for the unit. If the commandant does their job the unit will be told when the class graduates and the Soldier will return to their unit. If a unit had made this request of me they would have been told that very thing. If they pushed it I would have called their next higher command. Academy students do not belong to the unit. They belong to the academy. They are allowed minimal lost time and that’s at the authorization of the academy. We didn’t even allow lost time for a retest. They came in on their private time, as did the instructor, to accomplish non POI tasks. What this unit is trying would be no different than calling a Soldier who transferred to a new unit and telling them to come back for a PT test, so their numbers look better.
(0)
(0)
Read This Next
Continue with Facebook 
Continue with Google