Posted on May 15, 2015
Common thief vs. Iraq veteran - What would you have done?
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Liquor Store Clerk Iraq Veteran Turns Tables On Would Be Robber
Over the weekend 54-year-old Jon Lewis Alexander was working at Beer:30 Liquor Store in Marionville, Missouri when a man entered the store, pulled a gun on h...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5_ea1yCwqo
What is your reaction to this video? With recent public buzz about violent crime and gun ownership, would you say this clerk represents the exception amongst gun owning veterans?
What is your reaction to this video? With recent public buzz about violent crime and gun ownership, would you say this clerk represents the exception amongst gun owning veterans?
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I think the guy in the video answered that when he said he don't think everyone should do it that you need to know what you are capable of. Also with that you need to know what level of risk you are willing to take. But good for the clerk I am glad he did do it.
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Cpl Paul Smith
Training and proper response to the situation helped to prevent this situation from becoming a different headline: "Store clerk killed during robbery."
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As past and present warriors, we all say we'd have done the same thing but in reality I'm not sure anyone knows exactly how they'd react in this situation. Something similar happened to me once and looking back at it, it did not go down as I would've potentially described it.
Nonetheless, the training this man had is clearly displayed with his reaction time, poise, and assertiveness. He reacted - no thinking involved.
I'm sure the merits of the second amendment will be throughly debated here but no one can deny the value of military experience!
Nonetheless, the training this man had is clearly displayed with his reaction time, poise, and assertiveness. He reacted - no thinking involved.
I'm sure the merits of the second amendment will be throughly debated here but no one can deny the value of military experience!
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The veteran in the video is a shining example of what happens when you have responsible citizens exercising their 2nd Amendment Right to keep and bear arms. He reacted as one would expect a veteran to react -- with a cool head and courage, displaying confidence in the face of danger. If we had gun control laws in place, only the robber would have been armed and it could potentially have gone very badly for the veteran.
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PO2 Clifton Brown
Actually most liberals do NOT want guns outlawed, just monitored, and those who are allowed to carry, trained properly in their use. I am a liberal and a gun owner.
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Capt Jeff S.
Chicago, New York, Detroit [all bastions of liberalism] are abject failures when it comes to demonstrating how gun control translates into a safer environment for the local citizens. They have some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation, yet they also among the highest in violent crime. Apparently, it's not working out so well for them.
Conversely, the states with less strict gun laws also tend to have lower violent crime? Apparently not knowing whether or not your victim is armed IS a deterrent to would-be robbers.
The following is a little right of center and could possibly be construed as being extreme right by someone who is extreme left... Read it and try to hear what the author is really saying. Does it not make sense?
Conversely, the states with less strict gun laws also tend to have lower violent crime? Apparently not knowing whether or not your victim is armed IS a deterrent to would-be robbers.
The following is a little right of center and could possibly be construed as being extreme right by someone who is extreme left... Read it and try to hear what the author is really saying. Does it not make sense?
Progressives' Ridiculous Gun Control Argument
Once again, conservatives have latched onto the bait tossed out by progressives in their never-ending campaign to grab guns from the hands of law-abiding citizens. Gun control is just one aspect of the Progressive agenda; in essence, they want control of everyone and everything any way they can.
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SPC Roland Styers
I completely agree with Capt. Schwager. Just look at Australia, they outlawed guns but it did not make the dramatic drop in gun crimes they thought it would.
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Veteran or not, it's our right to protect what's ours. Mission accomplished!
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Good video, because it shows that he first ensure that the guys gun was directed away from him then he pulled his gun without looking for it and placed it on the guys face. He also choose not to shoot even when he had the right. All these shows that he practices what he does. That is the lesson here practice, practice, practice.
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PO1 John Miller
Great response CPT Pedro Meza! I myself also have a CCW and try to carry as much as I can, but I definitely want to get some training on how to better react in any potential situation where I have to choose "Do I pull my weapon or not?"
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The Thief was lucky. He could have been in a morgue on a slab instead of living to tell his tale. I would hope that he learned a valuable lesson and changed his ways.
I Carry a CCW weapon and would have done similarly. If the legal use of force is reached and you are no longer in danger, holster your weapon. This was a good call by the veteran.
WIN WIN.
I Carry a CCW weapon and would have done similarly. If the legal use of force is reached and you are no longer in danger, holster your weapon. This was a good call by the veteran.
WIN WIN.
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My main thought, it is to bad the criminal walked out of the store? Perfect ending would have been with the thief in handcuffs...in my book...but with the video, that could still happen.
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CPT Pedro Meza
we would never know, it is possible that it was a fake gun too. So not a true Mexican standoff. Brad good call.
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MSG Brad Sand
Thank you Sir. CPT Pedro Meza we also do not know anything about the thief. For all we know, he is veteran that fell down the dark hole of substance abuse and I would not want our 'hero' to have to live with taking another person life if it was not necessary.
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MSG Brad Sand
Ummm...okay CPT Pedro Meza I might connect with him but I will not endorse him unless he changes his ways?
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that clerk sure did have his head on right that day. just by looking at the video you could tell he was trying to remain as calm as humanly possible.
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CW4 Kelvin Holt
SPC Matthew Hawthorne - I'm confused, is your comment directed at the video or SPC Cramer?
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Well done and executed professionally. He knew what he was doing and how to handle the situation with out it escalating as he pushed the robbers gun away and brought his out like it was second nature and well practiced. Good on him and now the police can get the robber at least for attempted armed robbery and tie him up for a few years. He is very lucky he will be in jail and not a pine box.
Good on the veteran for not just shooting him as he could have, he deescalated the issue without anyone getting hurt. I'm sure the robber is thinking about it knowing he could be dead right now. Hopefully it will make other wannabes think before they attempt to rob someone.
Good on the veteran for not just shooting him as he could have, he deescalated the issue without anyone getting hurt. I'm sure the robber is thinking about it knowing he could be dead right now. Hopefully it will make other wannabes think before they attempt to rob someone.
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