Posted on Nov 4, 2014
Concealed carry for all current service members (CAC holders)?
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That would be a smart way of doing it yes. Should it be automatic, no. A young service member, let's say 18.. Shouldn't be allowed to carry just yet. All in all
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No, no, and HELL NO! Too many idiots with drug/mental issues running around with a CAC card while waiting to be discharged or in a lot of cases just in constant trouble and waiting to get out. I knew several during my time in that I would trust with a sling shot or airsoft gun, much less concealed carry of a firearm.
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Yes. Military should be allowed to carry on base without a doubt. For other establishments the military should aside by the state laws as we always have.
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Absolutely, but under the stipulation that they are trained and qualified to do so. If military personnel are responsible enough to go through the proper training to conceal carry and reciecve their license or permit (dependent on state), then they should be authorized to carry on base. I mean honestly, how often to do you see people who LEGALLY conceal carry run around and do dumb things (i.e. waving it around, pulling it out unnecessarily, etc) with said weapon.
In the face of tomorrow, U.S. service members are encountering the more common threat of endangerment on base, on U.S. soil, and in their own homes. Its only fair that those responsible enough to get proper CC training be allowed to protect the ones they work with and the ones they love.
Besides, I'd put a gun in most active duty service members hand's before I give it to a lot of law enforcement officers out there.
In the face of tomorrow, U.S. service members are encountering the more common threat of endangerment on base, on U.S. soil, and in their own homes. Its only fair that those responsible enough to get proper CC training be allowed to protect the ones they work with and the ones they love.
Besides, I'd put a gun in most active duty service members hand's before I give it to a lot of law enforcement officers out there.
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Capt Richard I P.
PO2 (Join to see) Could you take a look at the 10 point recommendation to detail what we're thinking about using as broad policy recommendations, see if they capture your concerns, if not, please give us some suggested edits on the comment.
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I say yes that if you are AD or if in the reserves/guard and on assignment on base, then you should be allowed to carry. As a Submariner, at one point in time or another, every member of the crew will carry a weapon. Other than the CO and XO who are qualified to use a weapon but generally don't, the DOC is the only person who will not handle a firearm. Be it as a topside watch or a roving watch below decks, we all have carried based on FPCON. Hell, even the most junior nubly E-1 will be intrusted with a 9mm and a shotgun or M16. The way I see it is, if I am being trusted to protect a billion plus dollar national asset, then I should be able to carry a weapon on base at my discretion. It will come to be one day that a lone wolf terrorist will get onto an installation and run rampant before security can get to him and we will have an incident as bad or worse than the Fort Hood shooting.
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Capt Richard I P.
SCPO (Join to see) Could you take a look at the 10 point recommendation to detail what we're thinking about using as broad policy recommendations, see if they capture your concerns, if not, please give us some suggested edits on the comment.
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Only for military, not government employees. They're trained in weapons safety.
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Not all people with CAC cards Military or have the proper training. If Military is allowed to carry with CAC card then they should carry open. Why hide it, if it's due to safety on base.
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Capt Richard I P.
PO1 James Capasso Take a look at the 10 point recommendation to detail what we're thinking about using as broad policy recommendations, see if they capture your concerns, if not give us some suggested edits on the comment.
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The big issue you're going to run into with this idea is federal vs state laws. Most states have conceal/carry laws that require certain training/certificates and are usually not valid across state lines. Allowing military personnel to conceal/carry just for being military would require a federal standard be established. Then you'd have the whole federal law vs state law argument.
Having said that, I think that being military does not make you any more qualified than the average citizen to handle a firearm. In regards to protection, we as federal acitve duty service members do not have the authority to enforce local laws. We are a force charged to protect the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and should have the right to self defense. But that doesn't make us a police force.
The question that should be asked is what would be accomplished by allowing service members to conceal/carry on and off duty? Would it reduce the current threat to military personnel while off duty? Probably. Would it reinforce certain negative stigma that verterans already face? Probably. Just some things to think about.
Having said that, I think that being military does not make you any more qualified than the average citizen to handle a firearm. In regards to protection, we as federal acitve duty service members do not have the authority to enforce local laws. We are a force charged to protect the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and should have the right to self defense. But that doesn't make us a police force.
The question that should be asked is what would be accomplished by allowing service members to conceal/carry on and off duty? Would it reduce the current threat to military personnel while off duty? Probably. Would it reinforce certain negative stigma that verterans already face? Probably. Just some things to think about.
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Capt Richard I P.
SFC (Join to see) Take a look at the 10 point recommendation to detail what we're thinking about using as broad policy recommendations, see if they capture your concerns, if not give us some suggested edits on the comment.
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The standard in this case is in the Constitution. "...the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed". Since the Constitution specifically addresses this
Right, it is not reserved to the States. I am sure this notion will be subject to dissent, but that is ok. My.02 worth
Right, it is not reserved to the States. I am sure this notion will be subject to dissent, but that is ok. My.02 worth
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Absolutely, millitary personnel should be able to have a Concealed License as long as a PQS form was written so the person trying to get it would be able to complete the proper training. The more protection the better while out in the civilian world and crazy people.
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As much as I would like to say yes, I don't agree. Despite individuals being in the military I feel that the military does not provide adequate legal training, nor is the use of pistols covered in BCT or AIT for many MOS'S in the army. However I believe a soldier who was take a civilian run conceal carry class in conjunction with being in the military should be able to carry, anywhere, anytime.
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Capt Richard I P.
SGT(P) (Join to see) did you check out the 10 points at the top? Do they address your concerns? Any suggestions on how to improve them? comment on the thread and let us know!
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