Posted on Apr 27, 2014
1SG S3 Operations Ncoic
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I never knew what a "indiscipline" was until one of my First Sergeants told the unit. We need to correct all the indiscipline's in the unit. He explained they are the little regulations we choose not to follow because they have become the norm or don't really hurt anyone or anything. I immediately went to AR 670-1 and printed out several copies where it states..Hands will only be placed in the pockets momentarily to place or retrieve items. (doing that after I attempted to make several corrections on senior enlisted and was shrugged off) I posted these all over the hanger until the first sergeant asked who did it. I told him I had because I had tried to correct the indiscipline's I saw and was ignored. Well he was a violator at the time, but after that I never saw his hands in his pockets again. Should it have came to that or just been handled with a on the spot correction? any way, my point to this is. These indiscipline's we fail to correct are a learned behavior. I feel we as senior NCO's, Officers, and Warrant's should take a hard look at these and correct it. It has ran ramped from hands in the pockets, glasses on the head, the wrong sun glasses, keys hanging off the belt loops, to the many other. And the seniors are the biggest violators. What are your opinions?
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SFC Peter Cyprian
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Wow...the old "hands in the pocket" is once again an issue? I think we both know how it gets to the point you encountered- Senior NCOs not caring enough to enforce the regulations. Here's the real issue with that- what else are they not willing to correct? What else is going unchecked? I am not just talking about uniform regulations- as a communicator one of the first things that comes to mind on the technical side is grounding. For some reason, not sure why, comms troops (if not held to the standard) will almost always fail to properly ground their gear. I am sure each MOS has their own little things that will quickly be ignored if unchecked. Also consider this- if the NCO came up in an environment of "indiscipline", what kind of corrections do you think they will be making? I am betting "very little". My bottom line is this- while some may say "oh, he's just nit picking" I would say that you are instilling the overarching idea that on the spot corrections need to be made any time an infraction is noticed. This will instill that attention to detail attitude the every NCO should have and will bleed over into the individual jobs as well as general military regulations. What the hell has happened to "No one is more professional than I"?
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SFC Christopher Perry
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Negative 1SG, this should never have been necessary. Your simple on the spot correction should have been more than sufficient. It is unfortunate that someone would need to be shamed into doing what they already know is right. I do however, applaud you for your creative approach.
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