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From: Army Times
No one disputes that Sen. Joni Ernst, R-Iowa, served with the National Guard in a combat zone.
So the recent round of questions about whether she counts as a "combat veteran" has made more than a few former service members uncomfortable and upset.
But they aren't necessarily surprised.
"This kind of stuff has been going on for generations," said Phil Carter, director of veterans programs at the Center for a New American Security. "We've seen conversations about peacetime service as opposed to wartime service. We've seen veterans from different wars trade stories about who had it tougher.
"But so few people have an appreciation for what military service is that these arguments start to take on a controversial quality about what 'counts' as service."
Earlier this month, the Huffington Post questioned Ernst's characterization of herself as a "combat veteran," noting she had not been involved in a firefight during her 14-month Middle East deployment.
The Iowa Guard lieutenant colonel commanded the 1168th Transportation Company during the 2003-04 deployment, overseeing transportation runs in Kuwait and southern Iraq and running a protection detail in Kuwait.
She touted her "combat veteran" status in numerous campaign stops during the mid-term elections last year, and noted in response to the recent criticism that both Veterans Affairs and Defense Department guidelines classify her as one.
Fellow Senate Armed Services Committee colleague Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. — himself a Vietnam veteran and former prisoner of war — called Ernst a combat veteran "by any definition."
"Malicious claims to the contrary denigrate not only her service, but that of countless current and former service members who served honorably in a range of roles in our military," he said in a statement.
Carter echoed that sentiment, noting that honoring only certain kinds of military service — in this case, battlefield fighting — risks alienating other troops who have served honorably.
"There's always someone harder than you," he said. "There's always someone who has seen more combat, or had tougher tours. But that doesn't erase someone's war record."
Since the Ernst piece was published and picked up by other news outlets, most veterans' groups have declined comment on the criticisms, other than to offer official statements saying it's clear the senator served honorably in a designated combat zone.
Mark Seavey, new media manager at the American Legion and an an expert in stolen valor cases, said he worries that criticisms like those leveled at Ernst confuse actual cases in which troops or imposters claim military honors they never earned. Ernst has not claimed any medals or campaign awards beyond her record.
"You don't want to see real crimes get watered down because of some people's semantics about service," Seavey said.
He also sees the continued buzz over the issue as underscoring the lack of understanding by many civilians about what the recent wars were really like.
"I can't think of a place, the entire time when I was in Afghanistan, where I thought, 'Wow, I feel really safe here,' " he said. "Everyone who has served over there was in a dangerous area.
"A minuscule number of individuals ... were involved in firefights. But it's still a combat zone."
http://www.armytimes.com/story/veterans/2015/02/19/ernst-combat-veteran-criticism/23666043/
No one disputes that Sen. Joni Ernst, R-Iowa, served with the National Guard in a combat zone.
So the recent round of questions about whether she counts as a "combat veteran" has made more than a few former service members uncomfortable and upset.
But they aren't necessarily surprised.
"This kind of stuff has been going on for generations," said Phil Carter, director of veterans programs at the Center for a New American Security. "We've seen conversations about peacetime service as opposed to wartime service. We've seen veterans from different wars trade stories about who had it tougher.
"But so few people have an appreciation for what military service is that these arguments start to take on a controversial quality about what 'counts' as service."
Earlier this month, the Huffington Post questioned Ernst's characterization of herself as a "combat veteran," noting she had not been involved in a firefight during her 14-month Middle East deployment.
The Iowa Guard lieutenant colonel commanded the 1168th Transportation Company during the 2003-04 deployment, overseeing transportation runs in Kuwait and southern Iraq and running a protection detail in Kuwait.
She touted her "combat veteran" status in numerous campaign stops during the mid-term elections last year, and noted in response to the recent criticism that both Veterans Affairs and Defense Department guidelines classify her as one.
Fellow Senate Armed Services Committee colleague Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. — himself a Vietnam veteran and former prisoner of war — called Ernst a combat veteran "by any definition."
"Malicious claims to the contrary denigrate not only her service, but that of countless current and former service members who served honorably in a range of roles in our military," he said in a statement.
Carter echoed that sentiment, noting that honoring only certain kinds of military service — in this case, battlefield fighting — risks alienating other troops who have served honorably.
"There's always someone harder than you," he said. "There's always someone who has seen more combat, or had tougher tours. But that doesn't erase someone's war record."
Since the Ernst piece was published and picked up by other news outlets, most veterans' groups have declined comment on the criticisms, other than to offer official statements saying it's clear the senator served honorably in a designated combat zone.
Mark Seavey, new media manager at the American Legion and an an expert in stolen valor cases, said he worries that criticisms like those leveled at Ernst confuse actual cases in which troops or imposters claim military honors they never earned. Ernst has not claimed any medals or campaign awards beyond her record.
"You don't want to see real crimes get watered down because of some people's semantics about service," Seavey said.
He also sees the continued buzz over the issue as underscoring the lack of understanding by many civilians about what the recent wars were really like.
"I can't think of a place, the entire time when I was in Afghanistan, where I thought, 'Wow, I feel really safe here,' " he said. "Everyone who has served over there was in a dangerous area.
"A minuscule number of individuals ... were involved in firefights. But it's still a combat zone."
http://www.armytimes.com/story/veterans/2015/02/19/ernst-combat-veteran-criticism/23666043/
Posted 11 y ago
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I would hope the Senator retained a hard copy of what now passes for an 'LES'.
Did the Senator receive Combat pay or not?
Did the Senator receive Combat pay or not?
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CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025
Not according to Rush Limbaugh! Probably, because as college 'graduates' in today's world they cannot read, spell, make change w/o an automatic cash register nor even (note, I did not say, 'mentally'), calculate their paycheck @ Starbucks.
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COL (Join to see)
As much as I don't agree with Mr. Bob Woodward at times, one thing he has stated that I do deeply respect is that the investigative journalism career field has lost its foundational values to the sensationalist media 24/7 news cycle..."put it out quick even if it is wrong and will hurt lives, we can correct ourselves in the little words at the bottom of the screen later." I have argued in several articles I have written that they must reinstate ethics education back into journalist higher education.
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CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025
Do you happen to recall a quote by soon to be CEO of Proctor & Gamble, Robert McDonald? (circa 2007?). As I recall, when asked about why he left active service, Mr McDonald said, paraphrased- he did not appreciate that the Army did not operate with the same (ethics), values he had so enjoyed at West Point.
If anyone had noticed that remark, perhaps the current spate of "Ethics" seminars and classes would have started earlier?
I think not, the system has had unaddressed weaknesses for years. (A general officer, piqued by his division's performance during an FTX, 'killing' all the careers of every O-6 in the division via their OERs.)?
I have looked unsuccessfully for the quote to no avail.
If anyone had noticed that remark, perhaps the current spate of "Ethics" seminars and classes would have started earlier?
I think not, the system has had unaddressed weaknesses for years. (A general officer, piqued by his division's performance during an FTX, 'killing' all the careers of every O-6 in the division via their OERs.)?
I have looked unsuccessfully for the quote to no avail.
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LTC Hillary Luton
COL (Join to see) I completely agree!! One of my frustrations with media queries would be reporters who felt it was our job as a PAO to do the research for them. I don't have a problem providing answers, but it is not my job to do the research they can do just as easily as I. I felt like we spent way too much time doing the reporter's job for them because they are too busy putting out inaccurate information.
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SGT(P) (Join to see)
Opinions are everywhere and cover all views imaginable. Why is your opinion of her labeling her as an idiot?
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SPC Don Stringer
You must be a Democrat to insult someone and not back your insult with the reasons why you feel that way. Are you hateful to her because she is a Republican? Do you know her personally?
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