Posted on Nov 2, 2014
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So I was perusing Army Times and saw this little Gem:

http://www.armytimes.com/article/20110309/NEWS/103090328/Ex-Walter-Reed-CSM-sentenced-to-6-months

From the article:

Some of the offenses admitted by Crump include wearing six awards and decorations from March to December of 2009, including the Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal with Arrowhead device, which indicates — contrary to military records — that he made a combat jump into Grenada. He admitted he wore a U.S. Navy Achievement Medal without authority since 2006 and, on three occasions, two or three unauthorized overseas service bars.


Do you think that the CSM was fined too harshly, just right, or not enough?


I will reserve my comments for now.
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CSM George Duncan
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He violated the sacred trust of his country and fellow soldiers
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LTC Ops Team Chief
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I want to know how he was able to get false awards uploaded into the system when I can't get awards, qualifications, and updates into my records
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Things I earned
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Not sure how the CSM got that into his records...the other latest individual, LTC Green, had direct access to IPERMs as a result of his former AGR job as a BDE S1. Perhaps that's how the CSM did his? Only speculation about how MAJ, now LTC Green, managed his paper trail.
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SGT(P) Infantryman
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I also believe that if he was a SGM he needs to learn how to wear the beret properly and not look like soup sandwich. I firmly believe that he wasn't penalized near enough for his crimes.
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MSG Talent Management Nco
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What I am wondering is why a CSM thought that falsely wearing a long tab would somehow help his credibility to being the standard bearer for Soldiers and the Senior Enlisted Advisor to his commander? And really, Walter Reed CSM? Was he trading war stories with wounded warriors and decide that a long tab would spice up his tales? Although, I believe his actions are a punishable offense I dont believe that jail time was the best manner of dispatching his punishment. I think that with force reductions, a reduction to his last honourably held rank and a forced retirement would have sufficed. If that punishment is good for this latest string of troubled General Officers than it should be good for a CSM (both being at the top of their respective corps)
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SFC Mark Merino
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I think you need to add a "What was going through this CSM's mind?" choice. What was he thinking?
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SFC Mark Merino This subject is very hard for me because I tend to think he had a major breech of integrity but it need not be harshly addressed. In fact, why is it that Major Nadal is not yet executed. As a CSM he has a lot of responsibility and I do not think you can make it that far and not be giving leniency when we have a vile reprobate killing our brave sisters and brothers..
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SFC Mark Merino
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Don't get me started on that, brother. I can't even bring myself to mention his name. Workplace violence my tuckas!
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SSG Louis Marucci
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Comparing Crump to Nadal is like comparing apples to oranges. Crump is a corrupt liar who deserves as harsh a punishment as this type of individual can receive while Natal is a monster who needs to be removed from the face of the earth after his brain has been "picked" to see if his kind can be prevented from being part of civilized society.
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This isn't the full story. The guy turned in fake bios, fake stories, claimed schools he didn't go to and generally used fake accomplishments to further his career. He seems to have a long history of pathological lying.

http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29797
SGT Alicia Brenneis
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A soldier faking valor is worse than a civilian doing it. Civilians make me mad when they do it but I can see that they do not understand just how insulting it is (or at least I hope they don't). As soldiers, we KNOW just what it means. For a senior leader to do something like this is unforgivable in his Army career and to those who truly earned the valor/ recognition he stole.
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SSG Ed Mikus
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I say just right, i agree that prison is a bit harsh, but it sets an example, his role in the military is to set an example, hopefully this example be understood by those who need to see it.
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SSG Marcus Brothers
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I'm sorry, but I stand in the minority here. My rationale comes from seeing someone receive 1/3 that sentence for stealing multiple-thousands of dollars from their subordinates. I've seen sexual assault get almost the same penalty (the difference being the addition of the BCD). I agree with MJA Petrarca that jail is not the place for these guys, although I don't know that his conduct rises to the level of punitive discharge (unless the evidence shows a few other things that I would be looking for when playing "guess the sentence").

What would others have thought of reduction to SFC and forfeiture of 2/3 of his pay for 12 months?
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SFC Military Police
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As a senior NCO we are supposed to be above reproach in all things and deserve no special treatment when we violate the regs regardless of family status. He dishonored himself, the uniform, and the Army merely to look as though he had done more than he did. Sure , he is shamed for life and his name and photo will be out there for everyone to see but he should have been demoted.
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No, I don't think he should be allowed to retire or retain any of the benefits that he was supposed to have earned.
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