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Why has the Army APFT excellence Badge just gone down the drain for the most part?
Do you wear it?
Do you encourage your soldiers to wear it?
Why or why not?
Do you wear it?
Do you encourage your soldiers to wear it?
Why or why not?
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I would personally never wear it... it as stated elsewhere costs extra money to put on uniforms and for what? In the Infantry you would get laughed out of your unit. Ive only seen other MOS's or national guardsmen wear it. For me it seems unnecessary and slightly ridiculous to wear... to show the world you got a 90 in each event? Big deal. However if you feel the need to rock it ... go for it. My half cents of opinions.
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SSG (Join to see) Honestly, I haven't seen too many wear the APFT Badge in recent years. I know a lot of Soldiers/NCOs/Officers that have earned it multiple times, to include myself, but for reasons don't actually wear it. I don't know if it is frowned upon by others in their units or just by personal choice but what I do know is my colleagues never mentioned it when they scored 290+ during the APFT. We just left it to that once the APFT was over. Even as a company commander I had 4-6 NCOs who scored 300 but none wore the patch. Three of them were master fitness too.
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I would not wear this patch, as it would have to be sewn onto every T-Shirt and PT jacket, which as we all know, gets expensive.
Secondly, those of us with P2 profiles who do the alternate aerobic event are in a grey area with regard to this award. The reg governing this award does not say either way about eligibility for the award for those taking the alternate event. Again, even if P2s were included, I still wouldn't wear it, because it is too much cost and effort to maintain, especially with the new APFUs being phased in.
Secondly, those of us with P2 profiles who do the alternate aerobic event are in a grey area with regard to this award. The reg governing this award does not say either way about eligibility for the award for those taking the alternate event. Again, even if P2s were included, I still wouldn't wear it, because it is too much cost and effort to maintain, especially with the new APFUs being phased in.
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1SG Frank Rocha
The award is based on the score annotated on your DA Form 705. For someone doing the alternate aerobic event the score for that event is on a GO/NO-GO basis. It has no point value. In fact the section that the run info would normally be annotated is left blank. The other 2 strength events are added together and the total score carried down to the overall score block. The most a person could get in that circumstance is 200. And although that amounts to a 100% average, it still is not a 90 or above in 3 events. Only 2. That doesn't mean the alternate event is a "0" by any means. a "0" would be a value and it has no value on the 705, just go or no-go. The only place the alternate event gets a numerical value is on promotion documents where the average of the 2 strength events are determined and that value is added to the original overall score from the 705. but it is never inputted into a permanent database.
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I cant say that this is the sole reason, but I do remember that when I went through BCT it was almost looked down upon as showing off or being overly full of yourself. I can remember my Drill Sergeants making fun of the patch, saying that its great to be able to get but no body should actually put it on their shirts. The army needs to find a way for Soldiers to feel like it is more of an honor to wear it.
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Perhaps making the rule be that in order to wear the patch you must achieve a 300 APFT score on more than 1 consecutive APFT, I think that would cut down on the numbers of people who are awarded it and that will promote exclusivity which will make it more desirable to people.
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