Posted on Aug 26, 2015
Desperately wanting to reclass from infantry to get more civilian ready skills. Any advice?
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I have been considering changing my mos. I love my current mos as a 11B as it has provided me with useful information as well as being part of a long tradition of being a infantryman. But I have come to the conclusion that my current mos provided little to no employment opportunities on the civilian side other than law enforcement which is hard to achieve nowadays. Which mos do you currently have or have had in the past that provides a great employment opportunities on the civilian side. And what are the daily routines of the said mos.
11B: Infantryman
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Army National Guard
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Check into the 91 series jobs. There is always jobs in the civilian world for mechanics
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You can follow your passion(s), or you can follow job opportunities. If the former, then I can't really point you in any direction there. However, the old saying is "Build a career around what you love and you'll never have to work a day in your life." If the latter, the health industry makes up almost 20% of our economy, and projections are that it will expand even further. A medical MOS would be a good place to start. Also, a signal MOS provides tons of opportunities in the private sector. Good luck!
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The only advice that I feel I can responsibly offer is to consider that, as an infantryman, you will come to fundamentally understand some things that lend themselves to philosophy. I was as surprised as my Ethics professor at how blown away he was, for example, when he asked the class for a list of "virtues" and I still had my "Army Core Values" card to offer.
If practicality is limited to financial considerations, this won't be a field to pursue as a career, but a professor will help with giving you a foundation to begin to explore philosophy on your very own. Good luck!
If practicality is limited to financial considerations, this won't be a field to pursue as a career, but a professor will help with giving you a foundation to begin to explore philosophy on your very own. Good luck!
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SPC Duncan Koebrich
(I'm inclined to add that Socrates is said to have been an infantryman, if he actually existed [I don't have much trouble believing that he did])
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Well as a infantrymen you have a few different career options that most over look as long as you get the corresponding civilian education for your experience. Leadership corresponds to management easier for buisness degree if you volunteer for recruiter will award many credits, their is law enforcement, their is the troops to teacher program, private security, and then their government jobs like the post office were you get veterans preference along with companies that like prior military just for the core discipline that is installed through military service(i.e. Showing up on time)
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SPC Duncan Koebrich
I agree, and wouldn't recommend prioritizing one avenue over another. Philosophy has been helpful for me, and I do connect my passion for the contributions of philosophical thinking to my service as an infantryman, but it could be that I'm a person who loves philosophy that just happens to have once been an infantryman.
My inclination is to entertain the former "connection" rather than the latter "coincidence", as in my experience the instillation of the virtues: loyalty, duty, respect, selfless service, honor, integrity, and personal courage are not the abstractions that philosophical models, in an ethics class for example, try to illuminate for the other students. For an infantryman, and I don't limit this tendency to infantryman but rather am only qualified to speak as such, weighing right and wrong, life and death, and other extremes is not an abstract endeavor, as they have already done so and as such, are in a unique position to learn and teach the other, probably less experienced, students. Wisdom requires more that the philosopher is experienced than he is intelligent or knowledgeable.
I mention this because I feel that it isn't expressed often enough, and is perhaps overlooked. Perhaps military service could be worth some philosophy credits if understood properly by the school, for those concerned with achieving a degree.
In a philosophy class, I learned of the concept of living "authentically", and have since understood that to mean taking responsibility for everything that happens to you. Back at 2/5 Cav, years earlier, this same sentiment was expressed daily in this form, in unison:
"I can save my own life
I am responsible for my own actions on and off duty, on and off post
I am important because my nation, my unit, and family love me
And need me to shoot the enemy in the face"
That "power thought" is riddled with virtue, on so many levels......
My inclination is to entertain the former "connection" rather than the latter "coincidence", as in my experience the instillation of the virtues: loyalty, duty, respect, selfless service, honor, integrity, and personal courage are not the abstractions that philosophical models, in an ethics class for example, try to illuminate for the other students. For an infantryman, and I don't limit this tendency to infantryman but rather am only qualified to speak as such, weighing right and wrong, life and death, and other extremes is not an abstract endeavor, as they have already done so and as such, are in a unique position to learn and teach the other, probably less experienced, students. Wisdom requires more that the philosopher is experienced than he is intelligent or knowledgeable.
I mention this because I feel that it isn't expressed often enough, and is perhaps overlooked. Perhaps military service could be worth some philosophy credits if understood properly by the school, for those concerned with achieving a degree.
In a philosophy class, I learned of the concept of living "authentically", and have since understood that to mean taking responsibility for everything that happens to you. Back at 2/5 Cav, years earlier, this same sentiment was expressed daily in this form, in unison:
"I can save my own life
I am responsible for my own actions on and off duty, on and off post
I am important because my nation, my unit, and family love me
And need me to shoot the enemy in the face"
That "power thought" is riddled with virtue, on so many levels......
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I know I am 3 months behind on this topic but after reading through some of the comments, it seems you have interest in Law Enforcement. Civilian LE have always interest in former Infantrymen. However if you want to stay AD, you might want to consider in the 31 series, which includes MP, K-9, CID, MP Investigator, Traffic, or Corrections and many others LE gigs.
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Being 11 series does not hurt your chances in law enforcement. The only mos most police departments don't like is 31b because of the way they are trained. I assure you multiple police departments especially here in Texas love prior military. Only if you try for like fbi and via do they require specific degrees. Also being in the army alone gives you managerial skills follow up with a buisness degree and it will make more then one field of employment after you get out. Secondly seek out additional duties that help like Upl, sharp, EO rep once you get into the nco ranks. Just make sure you can articulate what you have done into the civilian equivalent. Lastly you have PMC type of work as a option to.
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I re-classed from infantry when I was active, and although, I did it for the same reason you are talking about, it was one of the worst mistakes I ever made. It still worked out in the long run though. I re-classed to be a Bradley mechanic, every day in the motor pool until the motor sergeant says you can go home, busy or not. That sucked ass big time.
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I'm 11b in the guard, and on active I was a 12b. Neither have any 1 to 1 equality. Shooting people and blowing their stuff up, or looking for IED'S just isn't a civilian thing. However that experience in combat arms has made me an mvp in the civilian sector. The self discipline has made working on my degree a breeze. In the work force I have greater credibility than my peers in the security industry, and I have the engrained versatility to fill multiple roles very well. Being a grunt doesn't necessitate stupidity, and strongly discourages incompetence. Be proud of being a grunt.
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