Posted on Mar 6, 2016
Did you regret getting out of the military? What is civilian life like?
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I've been in the Navy for almost four years now. I have about 16 months left. I started off great at my first duty station, earning the title of region Bluejacket of the Year. The Navy is my first job and is what I've grown accustomed to. Within the last year of my last duty station leadership changed, the atmosphere changed and I suddenly had a change of heart. I felt like all the hard work that I did went to waste and no one had my back. Awards got lost, 1306s lost, leadership refused to help, C school package issues and problems with orders, I could go on and on. I kept doing the exact same thing I've been doing. It got so bad that I created 47 of my own reasons why I want out. I lost my motivation and was stuck in a rut I couldn't get out of. I love the military and planned on making it a career for as long as I can. I became a Corpsman because of the rich history of the rating and my passion for medicine. I also wanted to work on the deck plates so I could rise to become Surgeon General and have an idea on what to change and make better within Navy Medicine. But now I'm lost. I don't know how much I could take. My mentors don't blame me for wanting to get out, but I'm worried about civilian life. Is it as bad as people say it is? I do have a plan if I get out but I heard it is hard to get back in. Thanks for responses in advance.
Posted 9 y ago
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PO2 (Join to see) no regrets, I gave it 110% living up to the Army Slogan of 1989, "Be all you can be". I am at peace with my duty, but the mental scars of war, I am dealing with. Moreover, lost of life. I love the freedom of knowing I retired with over 25 years of faithful and honorable service. I am adjusting in the civilian world in all aspects of transition and I am succeeding with a lot of hard work and love from family and friends to include my church family. There are moments that I do miss the military, but I am grateful to be moving on in life.
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PO3 Tom Kiraly
SFC, or Gunny as they say in my neck of the woods. I feel that yours is the ideal military experience. There is a certain threshold after which your skills become marketable. The Junior enlisted to NCO gives you a sense of greater responsibility and a sense of even greater purpose, but once you cross the line to staff and above you're much more of a manager. You are trusted with the well being of many swinging dicks, entire companies, units, departments, etc. You are the head and all those in your care are the body. You can pen to paper a significant resume out of all the logistic, personnel, administrative, and managerial experience that can only be achieved in the high ranks. The problem is when service members like me leave during a down stroke. I was in the situation that OP was in. My leadership was awful, I needed help and could not find it, I didn't know where to turn, and I left as a new NCO. My life since then has been very challenging. I am now a clinical manager for a pain practice but it took a long time to get here. I feel like I exited the military prematurely and without any foresight just because I couldn't stand the bs I was going through. I was Marine Corps Infantry and very much accustomed to bs, mind you. Back to my point, I had 2 combat tours, loads of experience under my belt, I was skilled in the art of warfare and medicine. I saved lives. I thought for sure a job would be the least of my worries. I approached the SWAT team since it seemed a natural fit and was told I'd need about 6 years of school. Everywhere else worthwhile demanded a degree. I went to school and still am underemployed. The reason I find is because most places that pay a living wage don't care much about a degree, as expensive as it still was. They care about experience. My experience was valuable to me and I rose above my peers, excelling in what I studied, but I look at my resume. High school, jobs, military, and after 5 years of service it just looks like I'm a rolling stone. Hopping from one thing to another. This impression is certainly not the case. I dedicated my life in service to my brothers. But you don't see the real commitment on paper; all you see is 2 years here, 4 years there, etc. You, however, have an entire career behind you. Companies see that and they see dedication. Your resume fills as you pick up and your responsibilities grow. Likewise if you have at least 10 years and a rocker under you. My advice to OP and to anyone reading is this: You joined. Commit. Really make a career out of it, you learn more about yourself as you grow in leadership. I was no rank chaser and didn't care in my youth, but it is significant. Through rank you discover how much you can handle, where your strengths and weaknesses are both in your work and as a leader. The workplace is starved for great leadership. Teach yourself how to fit that bill. Don't be afraid to grow and give it your all. Really make something significant out of your time. No more counting down to EAS. No more impatiently chasing something else just because you're in a slump. Do you know what keeps civilians in their jobs for so long? Desparation. They may hate their jobs and lives but if they leave and take a pay cut it could be detrimental to their families. My modest salary is what my family depends on, and starting from scratch somewhere else is difficult. Not for you! Change your mindset, your unit, your duty station, your rate. Attend the classes, the special programs; develop and hone new skills! Motivation is what keeps the military going. If you're not motivated, you're doing something wrong but the good news is you can fix it. There's what I learned in hindsight; retention is low, motivation is lacking, and it's never too late to change your circumstances for the better! Rah and Semper Fi! - Doc Kiraly
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There are many parallels between military and civilian life. There are poor leaders in both. However, I have found that there are >10x more poor leaders in civilian life. As in civilian life, let your feet do the talking. Transfer to another command, another challenge. Keep growing your skills so you have more options both in the military and when you finally transition out someday.
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A new duty station, with new leadership, could change your whole perspective on things.
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