Posted on Apr 23, 2016
Do any current/former Unit Movement Officers (UMO) have any advice and guidance? I'm going to school soon.
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THANK YOU CARLOS
Rule #1 Kiss the butts of the people working at DOL Logistics, they will help you and give you insight as they constantly move equipment, vehicles, and personnel.
Please understand if I use generalities as I have not done this in 15 years.
- You will be given a Movement Book and its like small SOPs within one big SOP
It must be validated every year. And it shows the training, coordination, validation, and how to do
perform actions necessary for movement.
It tells you how to coordinate for air, ground, and rail transportation
It shows you how to coordinate for movement classes pallet building and rail loading details.
It is imperative that all units who are deploying put into the DOL Logistics Deployment Equipment
List database as those stats orders the planes and trains.
If you are in charge of moving a rail load to NTC always have unit POCs available as drivers and
assistant drivers tend to disappear. Have recovery vehicles.
Air movement requires fire mechanisms to removed sometime, MREs ordered, baggage and
palletizing details.
I would create a list of phone numbers.
You would need to work with the S-4 on what is available at the deployment site. When I deployed
to Kuwiat we just needed to bring NVGs and Tanker Helmets so that was easy.
I will be here if you have further questions.
Rule #1 Kiss the butts of the people working at DOL Logistics, they will help you and give you insight as they constantly move equipment, vehicles, and personnel.
Please understand if I use generalities as I have not done this in 15 years.
- You will be given a Movement Book and its like small SOPs within one big SOP
It must be validated every year. And it shows the training, coordination, validation, and how to do
perform actions necessary for movement.
It tells you how to coordinate for air, ground, and rail transportation
It shows you how to coordinate for movement classes pallet building and rail loading details.
It is imperative that all units who are deploying put into the DOL Logistics Deployment Equipment
List database as those stats orders the planes and trains.
If you are in charge of moving a rail load to NTC always have unit POCs available as drivers and
assistant drivers tend to disappear. Have recovery vehicles.
Air movement requires fire mechanisms to removed sometime, MREs ordered, baggage and
palletizing details.
I would create a list of phone numbers.
You would need to work with the S-4 on what is available at the deployment site. When I deployed
to Kuwiat we just needed to bring NVGs and Tanker Helmets so that was easy.
I will be here if you have further questions.
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CW3(P) (Join to see) Can't help but wonder if they will be teaching you how to load Army units onto USN or MSC ships? In the MC we learned the basics of loading a BN onto Navy Amphibious ships but that was basically all at the time. We learned nothing about loading onto ground transportation of any kine. It was basically load everything into CONEX boxes and hoist all,or drive all vehicles or SP equipment and weapons,l onto flat-bed trucks for movement to the amphib base or airfield. It all seemed more like a chinese fire drill than anything organized at the time but somehow it worked and all arrived at the same place overseas.
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Chief,
I was a UMO for PATRIOT Battery from CPL through SGT and I was a BCT alternate as an SSG and SFC and offer a few key points.
1. Make sure your commander has scrubbed his deployment equipment lists. Depending on how long it's been since anyone's done it, your UIC may be requesting strategic lift for equipment you no longer have on the commander's PB. And of course, the opposite is true: you may have vital pieces of equipment that aren't listed, and as such, not scheduled for strategic lift.
2. Property Book (PB) scrub - This goes along with my first point. Make sure the equipment lists are reconciled to the PB. And make sure that no one prior to you taking the job has done the "hasty expedient" and dumped a bunch of other units' equipment on your list for a prior deployment. Without knowing what kind of unit you're in, I can only offer my own experience. I was in an Airborne BCT, so when we deployed a battalion, ALL the deployment attachments would get added to the deploying battalions equipment lists, which is fine...but after the deployment, that list has to be scrubbed back to what is organic to your unit.
Both of these tasks can me very time consuming, but I've always found the civilians who do movement to be very helpful. The other point to consider is that the commander has to be FULLY aware of his/her movement status, and if it's not GTG, you have to know how to fix it. In my time doing movement, those are really the only two issues I've ever seen.
But I've seen them every time I've assumed the duties.
I was a UMO for PATRIOT Battery from CPL through SGT and I was a BCT alternate as an SSG and SFC and offer a few key points.
1. Make sure your commander has scrubbed his deployment equipment lists. Depending on how long it's been since anyone's done it, your UIC may be requesting strategic lift for equipment you no longer have on the commander's PB. And of course, the opposite is true: you may have vital pieces of equipment that aren't listed, and as such, not scheduled for strategic lift.
2. Property Book (PB) scrub - This goes along with my first point. Make sure the equipment lists are reconciled to the PB. And make sure that no one prior to you taking the job has done the "hasty expedient" and dumped a bunch of other units' equipment on your list for a prior deployment. Without knowing what kind of unit you're in, I can only offer my own experience. I was in an Airborne BCT, so when we deployed a battalion, ALL the deployment attachments would get added to the deploying battalions equipment lists, which is fine...but after the deployment, that list has to be scrubbed back to what is organic to your unit.
Both of these tasks can me very time consuming, but I've always found the civilians who do movement to be very helpful. The other point to consider is that the commander has to be FULLY aware of his/her movement status, and if it's not GTG, you have to know how to fix it. In my time doing movement, those are really the only two issues I've ever seen.
But I've seen them every time I've assumed the duties.
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Thanks thats great to know but i dont think those are going to be a problem yet this unit is pretty new
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SFC Marcus Belt
Easy day! Then all you'll do is check the equipment list versus the PB and basically make sure they "say the same thing" and you're good. Last thing: if you have trucks and trailers under the same shipping unit number (SUN) or whatever they're calling it now, break them into separate line items: you're thinking about how to move your stuff, not how it fights.
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