Posted on May 30, 2017
Do combat arms soldiers look down on fellow combat arms brethren if they have deployed and not been awarded a combat badge/medal/ribbon?
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It seems like something so trivial, but is just deploying and doing your job enough to keep the respect of your combat arms peers? Does the fact that you were hit by an IED on a convoy, close enough to a falling mortar round, or engaged by small arms fire really make one a more qualified combat arms soldier? What are thoughts on those who were never in the wrong place at the wrong time?
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A bit of history for perspective. For a very long time, there was only one combat badge, and it was for Infantry. The psychology behind that was (they say) that it was the only thing that made the otherwise least desirable job in the Army, walking instead of riding and wearing nothing more than a shirt, pants, and a helmet for protection from enemy fire, desirable. At least the guys in tanks had lots of armor around them and didn't have to walk, and artillery guys were generally slightly farther from direct contact and they got to ride in the trucks that towed the guns. I believe medics were the first to complain about not having a combat badge since they were as much at risk and had to walk as much as their infantry counterparts. So medics got their combat badge. Then others chimed in with the fact that they were in combat, too, and more badges was the answer. The subsequent "proliferation" of combat badges "stole" some of the psychological value of the CIB, and there you have the idea that the CIB is better than the rest.
As I recall from my one "combat" tour (I was part of Division Staff), a lot of folks were disappointed when they found out that they had to be assigned to Brigade or below to qualify for one of those badges. Maybe it was Battalion? I'm not sure. I wasn't in a combat arm at the time and I sure wasn't getting shot at.
As I recall from my one "combat" tour (I was part of Division Staff), a lot of folks were disappointed when they found out that they had to be assigned to Brigade or below to qualify for one of those badges. Maybe it was Battalion? I'm not sure. I wasn't in a combat arm at the time and I sure wasn't getting shot at.
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The difference between a Combat Arms Soldiers and everyone else serving in the Army: Its not about the moments of terror when being engaged. It is about the long periods of time training to operate in a sustained direct combat environment before and after being engaged. For Combat Arms Soldiers, combat is a way of life. For everyone else, it is something that just happens to you. It is what it is. Don't try to make it into something it is not.
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Lien was said previously some guys get deployed some don’t. So does one look any different at the men and women who served in the Cold War and didn’t get into combat? we all signed up and took the oath, period.
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Those of us who were in a frontline combat unit did not think quite as highly of those who were not in combat. But we did respect them, and could not have operated without them.
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Here's the real deal that no one is saying: We've been at war 15 years now. If haven't done your time in Iraq or Afghanistan, then you are a piece of shit. Period. Too many of us are on our 4th deployment, or more, and way too many shitbags are refusing to deploy. So, yes, if you don't have combat time, you will be looked down upon. You've had 15 years to get your ass in the shit and take the burden off one of us who have been there and done that. Any new Soldiers get a break until they have been in a few years, then there is no excuse.
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Though not a combat veteran, it was just the time a gap of no conflict. I take care of many veterans from WW II to Afghanistan and the clinic I'm employed. Never have been disrespected any combat vet. Many times a combat vet has opened up to me about their harrowing ordeals especially their loss of their brothers. Sometimes an ear is just as comforting as the fresh bandages that I place on them. In the Regular Army I was Air Defense and changed to a couple of medical MOS when I joined the reserves. Been doing that for 38yrs as a civilian. Always respect those who served in war and peacetime.
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