Posted on May 30, 2017
SGT Joseph Gunderson
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It seems like something so trivial, but is just deploying and doing your job enough to keep the respect of your combat arms peers? Does the fact that you were hit by an IED on a convoy, close enough to a falling mortar round, or engaged by small arms fire really make one a more qualified combat arms soldier? What are thoughts on those who were never in the wrong place at the wrong time?
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Sgt Joshua Seavey
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Personally, I treat all military the same. It’s based off their actions and how they present them selves and how well they wear the uniform. I won’t hold inexperience accountable unless I know they were trained or been through it and are still f!(king it up, but rather educate when I’m able to.

Also I know two types of combat vets.
A$$holes: they just want to look or talk down someone.
Not A$$holes: they’ll respect you until you mess that up
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CW5 Ivan Murdock
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They don't, what they look down at is the extremes that people will go to, to get or wear a combat accouterment. They weaken the award and make it questionable. If the commanders as a whole fully stuck to what it was designed for and approved ONLY those deserving it wouldn't be an issue.
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SGT Darryl Borton
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Plenty of nobody's earned CIB's while hiding behind cover crying for mommy...CAB's were invented for the "me too" and "trophy for everyone" generation and in my opinion diminished the importance of the CIB. Idiots will look down on you for not having either, the contribution to the fight is always what matters, be it back in the TOC or in the middle of a TIC...The way I see it, you can be a great athlete without having ever been to the Olympics but you don't know how you stack against the competition so the glory goes to the dude in the arena (sounds like a quote from someone)

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PO1 Deputy Sheriff
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I honestly could care less, I got out of the army before they started awarding them and could probably go back and get one awarded. I learned a long time ago that what’s on someone’s chest doesn’t make the sailor/soldier. Could be a guy who had a rocket explode close to them or even on the same fob as idf.
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LTC John Bush
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I think the term "look down" is not correct. I think a person that has repeatedly exchanged direct fire with the enemy has a different mind set from one who has not and the same would be true ' but different' for indirect fire and IED exposure. This does not make anyone better or smarter just experienced. I think the same would apply to a firefighter, smoke jumper and a lot of other professions. Once upon a time an old NCO told me the difference between old soldiers in combat and first timers was the first timer thought they would surely die and the old soldier knew they probably would not. It took me a while to sort that out but it has some merit.
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SSgt Brett Ontiveros
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Yes they do! I think the main reason because they have the 3 different badges ( CAB,CIB, CMB) where as in the Marines Nd AF, they only have 1! So, regardless of your MOS, if your in combat as a supply guy or mechanic, you get the same recognition as an infantryman. If the Army wants to get rid of the division, they need to only have 1 combat badge for everyone!!! I earned mine while in the Marines as an 0331(machine gunner), but on the army I could only wear a CAB and not the CIB. But, they did let me wear my 1st Mar Div combat patch!
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SPC James Wynn
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Definitely a yes. It's no different than any other workplace. It's human nature to size up the next person and their qualifications. It shouldn't matter as much but that's just how it is. A decision shouldn't be based on badges and awards alone because this thing called red tape, poor COC's sometimes troops don't get awarded what was earned. But I myself am guilty of this on several occasions.
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SSG Michael Needham
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Been there and still feel the burn as a Nam Era vet ,non combat I am looked down on by my fellow Vets no combat unit patch I might as well been hiding out in Canada
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SFC David Bentley
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As a leader I think that I judge folks more if they are trying too hard to put forward that they are a combat hardened super trooper with no deployments under their belt. I earned my CAB in Kunar Afghanistan in 09-10, everyone but one guy got a combat award in my unit so it didn't make anyone special. I think that how you use your combat experience makes the difference from a leadership perspective.
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SGT Terry Ashburn
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I had 16 weeks of infantry school four weeks of surface to air missile school and was stationed in cold war Germany. I’ve always looked up to those with a CIB but I’ve always felt that I was not given due respect. Some don’t realize most of us in Germany were in a replacement pool for fallen comrades in Vietnam. I saw many being levied to that war zone. I have never gone to a VFW even though welcomed by the national parties , the VFW is for combat Vets. That’s the way it is.
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