Posted on May 20, 2018
Do I have to go back to W.L.C. after a two year break in service?
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I'm going back active in a few weeks after being out for 2 years. I'm aware that I keep my rank but do I have to go back to WLC? ( or from what I hear it's called BLC now) I don't have to go back through basic but I do have to go back to reception once I get to Ft. Sill for AIT to receive clothing, admin. stuff, etc. Has anyone gone through reception for a 2nd time. Would like some insight on how it is for prior service going back through reception as well.
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I was prior Army Active Duty with almost 3 years break in service. I did BLC in 2011, ETS'd out of the Army that same year, and re-enlisted into Active Duty in 2014.
The issue for WLC was only a minor inconvenience when I got my promotable status in 2016. I always assumed I had to retake the course, but didn't want to if I didn't "need" to. In my case, I DID NOT have the 1059 and for some reason, the 1059 it was NOT on my IPERMS/ OMPF. According to my COC, the graduation certificate did not matter, the 1059 DID.
In 2014, I sat down with the nice ladies at Ft Bragg HRC with all my certs and documents and painstakingly tried to reclaim all my prior Army education/ courses. Like in 2016 I had my graduation certificate but NO 1059... My saving grace was that the course was on my Army Transcript/ Joint Services Transcript (formerly known as AARTS) and A LOT of convincing (with my handy DD-214) and my graduation certificate that I had in fact completed the course. The result of that was that they scanned and uploaded my WLC CERTIFICATE into IPERMS (no 1059). BLC was added to my ERB as completed in 2011.
Fast forward to 2016, BLC for me is officially recognized by the Army as completed because it's on my ERB.
Somewhere in the mess of Army institutions, apparently the people who work for or at ALMS are the final verification authority for courses that contribute to your professional advancement. I found this out the hard way because I had completed SSD1 and it would NOT show on my ERB as completed even though I had printed the certificate, therefore I could not get promoted.... I called them... again and again.... When the ALMS people updated their records, my ERB was g2g and I got my stripes :)
To my knowledge, my 1059 for WLC exists NOWHERE online. It's 2018. I think it's in my "I love me book" lol
TLDR
Was out for a few years, neither I nor my COC knew if I had to redo BLC.
It was on my ERB and Army educational records. BLC was avoided.
Make sure you update EVERYTHING when you re-enter service with all the proper documentation and you should be ok :)
The issue for WLC was only a minor inconvenience when I got my promotable status in 2016. I always assumed I had to retake the course, but didn't want to if I didn't "need" to. In my case, I DID NOT have the 1059 and for some reason, the 1059 it was NOT on my IPERMS/ OMPF. According to my COC, the graduation certificate did not matter, the 1059 DID.
In 2014, I sat down with the nice ladies at Ft Bragg HRC with all my certs and documents and painstakingly tried to reclaim all my prior Army education/ courses. Like in 2016 I had my graduation certificate but NO 1059... My saving grace was that the course was on my Army Transcript/ Joint Services Transcript (formerly known as AARTS) and A LOT of convincing (with my handy DD-214) and my graduation certificate that I had in fact completed the course. The result of that was that they scanned and uploaded my WLC CERTIFICATE into IPERMS (no 1059). BLC was added to my ERB as completed in 2011.
Fast forward to 2016, BLC for me is officially recognized by the Army as completed because it's on my ERB.
Somewhere in the mess of Army institutions, apparently the people who work for or at ALMS are the final verification authority for courses that contribute to your professional advancement. I found this out the hard way because I had completed SSD1 and it would NOT show on my ERB as completed even though I had printed the certificate, therefore I could not get promoted.... I called them... again and again.... When the ALMS people updated their records, my ERB was g2g and I got my stripes :)
To my knowledge, my 1059 for WLC exists NOWHERE online. It's 2018. I think it's in my "I love me book" lol
TLDR
Was out for a few years, neither I nor my COC knew if I had to redo BLC.
It was on my ERB and Army educational records. BLC was avoided.
Make sure you update EVERYTHING when you re-enter service with all the proper documentation and you should be ok :)
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If it’s in your IPERMS you don’t have to do it again. If it’s not in your IPERMS get your 1059 put in there and your good. Block checked.
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You won't be able to even if you wanted to. I went to (what was then known as) PLDC. Primary Leadership Development Course when I was AD in 1990. I have a 17 year break in service before I came back, still as a SPC. I wanted to attend WLC just so I could get a refresher on basic leadership principles. I could not be enrolled because of my prior course.
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