Posted on Oct 21, 2020
Do I need to complete the DLC 4 if I plan on dropping my retirement packet in less than 3 months? How do I let HRC or DA know?
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I am dropping my retirement packet in less than 3 months. I received an email from 1SG that said I will be receiving a "8K bar to reenlistment" in 18 days if I fail to complete DLC 4. I checked LMS and saw that I was enrolled for DLC 4 in ATTRS and that I have over 270 days to complete this.
Do I need to complete the DLC 4? How do I let HRC or Department of the Army know that I will be dropping my retirement packet in less than 3 months? Where do I go to see if I have to complete DLC4 in less than 18 days or else get a "8K bar?" My NCOIC said he knows of someone that retired with an "8K Bar", it didn't hurt that SM when dropping the retirement packet, but it raised some "eyebrows"?
Thank you very much.
Do I need to complete the DLC 4? How do I let HRC or Department of the Army know that I will be dropping my retirement packet in less than 3 months? Where do I go to see if I have to complete DLC4 in less than 18 days or else get a "8K bar?" My NCOIC said he knows of someone that retired with an "8K Bar", it didn't hurt that SM when dropping the retirement packet, but it raised some "eyebrows"?
Thank you very much.
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MILPER 20-124 explains that everyone who fails to complete their DLC within certain time constraints for their rank will receive an 8K Bar to Continued Service. This applies from E4-E8. Those NCOs in the window to be evaluated by Senior NCO Evaluation boards who are still an 8K and ineligible to compete will receive a 1K. The second year they will receive a 2K and be separated. This is the up or out system as it applies to enlisted.
As far as negative effects, having an 8K has no impact on an indef NCO who is close to retirement. The Soldiers who are 8K are usually tracked by name at the Brigade and Division levels, and the Company Commander is required to counsel them every three months. This means you can expect to be harassed about it until its complete. But an 8K is not a flag and it does not prevent a Soldier from retirement or cause any issues with it.
As far as negative effects, having an 8K has no impact on an indef NCO who is close to retirement. The Soldiers who are 8K are usually tracked by name at the Brigade and Division levels, and the Company Commander is required to counsel them every three months. This means you can expect to be harassed about it until its complete. But an 8K is not a flag and it does not prevent a Soldier from retirement or cause any issues with it.
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OK. Thanks for the info. I knew it didn't affect me from getting my retirement packet, but I dont want to raise any eyebrows during my retirement process and when I retire.
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SFC (Join to see) on the good side, the 8K goes away once your retirement is accepted by HRC and turns into a 9Y
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It sounds comical to me that I will receive a "bar to reenlistment" after doing over 20 years of service? I reenlisted with an indef way back when I had 15 years of service.
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