Posted on Apr 16, 2018
Do Prior Service Enlisted have to attend AMEDD DCC (Direct Commission Course)?
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I just spoke with branch and they advised me that all AMEDD direct commission officers have to attend DCC. When I asked if this applied to prior service, I didn't really get an answer. My understanding is that other branches count BMT/BCT as a substitute for this. Does anyone have feedback or comments? Thanks in advance!
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UPDATE: Just got back from this course and I learned a lot more than I thought I would. There are a number of things enlisted soldiers don’t really learn. Aside from the curricula, I learned a lot about patience and got some tough lessons in leadership. Onto the next one!
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2LT (Join to see) wasn't when I went. It's a 28 day course that's a commissioning source. You do take one at BOLC the day after you arrive.
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1LT (Join to see)
CPT (Join to see) Can you post a sample training schedule for DCC? Like a list of activities that are performed (Example: NBC/Gas Chamber, 16k Ruck march, Confidence course etc..)
I'm trying to understand how much overlap there is in training between DCC and Basic Training.
Thank you.
I'm trying to understand how much overlap there is in training between DCC and Basic Training.
Thank you.
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1LT (Join to see) it may have changed a little bit since I went in July 2018 but the basics:
Uniform Purchasing and AR 670-1 Training
Day Land Navigation
Basic Rifle Marksmanship (Zero, Qual)
M9 Awareness (assemble / disassemble)
NBC Chamber
Diagnostic APFT
Ruck March
TA-50 Introduction
Introduction to PRT with daily PT
Introduction to Drill and Ceremony
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Uniform Purchasing and AR 670-1 Training
Day Land Navigation
Basic Rifle Marksmanship (Zero, Qual)
M9 Awareness (assemble / disassemble)
NBC Chamber
Diagnostic APFT
Ruck March
TA-50 Introduction
Introduction to PRT with daily PT
Introduction to Drill and Ceremony
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Looks like it’s official. Just got this email even though I commissioned in JAN. Someone’s ears must’ve been tingling haha
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1LT (Join to see)
I just got this same email today and fired off about 9 emails to my recruiter before finding this post....
If you read the welcome letter on the school house’s website, you’ll see that on week one they take you to clothing and sales to purchase uniforms, then you in-process the Army, go to medical and dental, etc. I guess I’m just wondering what they will do with us prior service who don’t need these things? I have 15 years worth of uniforms, I don’t need any more!
If you read the welcome letter on the school house’s website, you’ll see that on week one they take you to clothing and sales to purchase uniforms, then you in-process the Army, go to medical and dental, etc. I guess I’m just wondering what they will do with us prior service who don’t need these things? I have 15 years worth of uniforms, I don’t need any more!
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This question brought back a funny memory.
In the mid-1980s the Army in Europe was critically short of doctor's. The shortage was the catalyst that started the Physician Assistant (PA) program. However, even with PAs, battalion sized units (~600 soldiers plus family members) needed at least one physician in place.
There was a US armored cavalry unit in the town where I was stationed. It had gone through some tough times - bad discipline, trouble with the local nationals and Polizei, etc. It got so bad the the unit commander was relieved and a new commander was installed with the mandate to whip the unit into shape, which he was doing with vigor - lots of PT, relatively severe punishments for infractions and so forth.
At this time the unit received its brand new doctor. He had just received his direct commission as a captain and because the shortage was so critical Dr. (CPT) X- was not sent to Ft. Sam Houston for the Medical Officer Direct Commision Course. Instead, he was assigned directly from his home in Brooklyn and arrived with no uniforms or any idea of what a Private was let alone a Lt. Col., who was a stickler for military protocol. A day or so later, Dr. X-, now in a new set of BDUs, ran into the unit commander on the street and greeted him with a wave of his hand and in his finest Brooklyn accent said "Hi, howz it goin'?" Needless to say the unit commander went apoplectic and chewed out the good doctor as only thee commander could. From that day forward Dr X- did his best to avoid his nemesis and maintained a very low profile whenever the two of them were in the same room.
Postscript: Dr. X- did eventually learn the ways of the Army. He also learned the authority that a unit's surgeon had when it came to medical matters and would use it, often to the consternation of the commander. He was also a great doc who served all of us in the community very well
In the mid-1980s the Army in Europe was critically short of doctor's. The shortage was the catalyst that started the Physician Assistant (PA) program. However, even with PAs, battalion sized units (~600 soldiers plus family members) needed at least one physician in place.
There was a US armored cavalry unit in the town where I was stationed. It had gone through some tough times - bad discipline, trouble with the local nationals and Polizei, etc. It got so bad the the unit commander was relieved and a new commander was installed with the mandate to whip the unit into shape, which he was doing with vigor - lots of PT, relatively severe punishments for infractions and so forth.
At this time the unit received its brand new doctor. He had just received his direct commission as a captain and because the shortage was so critical Dr. (CPT) X- was not sent to Ft. Sam Houston for the Medical Officer Direct Commision Course. Instead, he was assigned directly from his home in Brooklyn and arrived with no uniforms or any idea of what a Private was let alone a Lt. Col., who was a stickler for military protocol. A day or so later, Dr. X-, now in a new set of BDUs, ran into the unit commander on the street and greeted him with a wave of his hand and in his finest Brooklyn accent said "Hi, howz it goin'?" Needless to say the unit commander went apoplectic and chewed out the good doctor as only thee commander could. From that day forward Dr X- did his best to avoid his nemesis and maintained a very low profile whenever the two of them were in the same room.
Postscript: Dr. X- did eventually learn the ways of the Army. He also learned the authority that a unit's surgeon had when it came to medical matters and would use it, often to the consternation of the commander. He was also a great doc who served all of us in the community very well
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Thanks for the great story, sir!! Understanding military bearing and protocol is definitely important for good order.
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MAJ Ronnie Reams
A friend of mine, now a retired MC COL, once told me he pretty did as he pleased. He said no one wanted to be the one that ran a surgeon out of the Army.
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MAJ that’s the goal, just wasn’t sure what the deal was as it’s a new process. I learned a while back to embrace the suck and make the best of it. Plus - I’ll make more at DCC as a 2LT than I would have made at annual training as a SGT. Just personally hoping it’s not a “shit show” like the other forum I read said it was.
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Good news as a whole as a lot of Direct commissioned soldiers needs this program
But to make prior enlisted go. that's news to me.
But to make prior enlisted go. that's news to me.
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Caught me off guard too, sir. Makes no sense to have to attend if I was already an NCO, but not my decision to make I guess.
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There is very little to be gained by sending a prior service to this course. However, as we all know, everyone has different experiences when they are enlisted and policies and rules change. By making all directs go they establish a minimum standard. The CAPT, she was a direct commission to the Army back in the day - they had no DCC. She went straight to the basic course. She said, “ I guess they don’t want them looking like the Public Health Service.” How long is DCC?
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CPT Enrique M.
CPT (Join to see) - stand corrected it doesn't say the type of active duty.. it only says "Active service" for 180 days
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CPT (Join to see)
COL (Join to see) the qualifying degree for a 70B is any BA or BS sir. I commissioned with my BS, but have advanced degrees.
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COL (Join to see)
I asked because I was wondering why go into the Army and not something like the Public Health Service.
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So having just left company command in an AMEDD Recruiting Company. AS of now, yes they are making all go. The intent is however that the DCC be strictly for those without prior service. So like I did BOLC II, I had over 8 years prior service....did I really need to get indoctrinated into battle drills, marching, etc......no....but I went anyway.
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MAJ(P) (Join to see)
CPT (Join to see) - Good deal. Welcome back to the team. Good luck in your career.
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Yes, all direct commission officers must attend the DCC regardless of prior service.
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Every one gets to go. I had Rangers who had been enlisted, went to PA school and subsequently commissioned, and had to attend AMEDD BOLC.
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BOLC I understand sir. From what I gathered the DCC was a customs and courtesy/intro to the army or Pre-BOLC. I’ve since received the guidance on the regulations. Looking forward to gleaning some new information from the learning tree
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Yes, CG of the AMEDD C&S made this a requirement across the board. And yes, it is new.
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CPT Enrique M.
CPT (Join to see) - come on you know it will be fun , especially seeing the docs trying to salute like they are in the british army , or standing at attention with knees locked , fingers pointing down instead of holding that roll of quarters , etc. its going to be fun! :)
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