Posted on Sep 25, 2015
Do you Agree or Disagree about this article - The politically correct military?
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http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/09/21/the-politically-correct-military/
Do you Agree or Disagree about this article - The politically correct military?
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We have become so obsessed with political correctness that we are almost to the point we cannot function as a country. Meanwhile the PC distraction is padding the bank accounts of ambulance-chasing attorneys, while the politicians, become more efficient at fleecing the American public and driving minorities onto a government plantation with more handouts. Perhaps this is the insanity we deserve for not voting wisely.
The effect of political correctness is to fundamentally change America, so much so that our Founders would never recognize what has occurred. It is not only maddening, but downright dangerous when such nonsense is extended to those who have volunteered to protect and defend this country.
The folly of the liberal-progressives is their idea of a politically correct military. It all began in 1972 as the war in Vietnam was drawing to a close. Active U.S. involvement ended in January 1973, and the world bid South Vietnam sayonara when North and South Vietnam officially became one.
Do you Agree or Disagree about this article - The politically correct military?
RP Members interesting article and perspective on The Politically Correct Military!
Your feedback and thoughts about the author's position:
We have become so obsessed with political correctness that we are almost to the point we cannot function as a country. Meanwhile the PC distraction is padding the bank accounts of ambulance-chasing attorneys, while the politicians, become more efficient at fleecing the American public and driving minorities onto a government plantation with more handouts. Perhaps this is the insanity we deserve for not voting wisely.
The effect of political correctness is to fundamentally change America, so much so that our Founders would never recognize what has occurred. It is not only maddening, but downright dangerous when such nonsense is extended to those who have volunteered to protect and defend this country.
The folly of the liberal-progressives is their idea of a politically correct military. It all began in 1972 as the war in Vietnam was drawing to a close. Active U.S. involvement ended in January 1973, and the world bid South Vietnam sayonara when North and South Vietnam officially became one.
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our military has become to PC and political in general. This is not good...
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Heartbreak Ridge: "Ambush site" aftermath
"We go into combat tommorow you'll plant half those men"
First, clicked on the link to read the article, which is why the graphic. Have the PC Nazi's somehow removed it? I wish I had been able to read the article. Without reading the article, my own experience underscores that a - politically correct military is a dead military. There is no room for political correctness in the service. There will always be a degree of politics, but political correctness will get people killed!!!
Second, I don't know much about today's Chief's community. But, I attended a friend's retirement ceremony in 2010. He was a Master Chief with both FMF and shipboard experience. He had served in the Desert a couple of times both before and after he became a Chief.
We had known each other for nearly 20 yrs when he retired. He was younger than me and a newly minted Chief in 1996, the year I retired. He said, privately at his retirement, "Nate, you would not like the CPO community now!" We talked about the politically correct nature and removal of traditions of how the CPO Community had really changed because of the loss of meaning and true intent of those traditions and intensity of increased political correct within the CPO community since I had retired back in 1996. In the mid-1990's a new breed of Chief was emerging in the US Navy. The PCC (aka Politically Correct Chief). It seemed the seeds were being sown deeper then to disrupt the cohesion the CPO mess had known.
Also, I have noticed that many are asking on the RP how to "lead" or "discipline" in the "new military".
So, while these scenes to follow are very "Hollywood" the scenes are simple to understand about the nature of leadership and the disaster that can be a politically correct military:
- Scene (1) ~ 2:13 (Lack of Understanding) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O4WuWd3dGQ. Pay attention to the language starting around the 0:27 mark.
- Scene (2) ~ 1:05 (Results Appreciated) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyDdoVIXNow
I am not suggesting cruel and unusual punishment be the order of the day for any military leader. Yet, there are men and women that have families and friends that care about them and will die when they are NOT prepared led by glory hounds or egotist who care little for them except as cannon fodder (stepping stones) because of a misguided understanding of their roles( their duty) to those they lead.
Second, I don't know much about today's Chief's community. But, I attended a friend's retirement ceremony in 2010. He was a Master Chief with both FMF and shipboard experience. He had served in the Desert a couple of times both before and after he became a Chief.
We had known each other for nearly 20 yrs when he retired. He was younger than me and a newly minted Chief in 1996, the year I retired. He said, privately at his retirement, "Nate, you would not like the CPO community now!" We talked about the politically correct nature and removal of traditions of how the CPO Community had really changed because of the loss of meaning and true intent of those traditions and intensity of increased political correct within the CPO community since I had retired back in 1996. In the mid-1990's a new breed of Chief was emerging in the US Navy. The PCC (aka Politically Correct Chief). It seemed the seeds were being sown deeper then to disrupt the cohesion the CPO mess had known.
Also, I have noticed that many are asking on the RP how to "lead" or "discipline" in the "new military".
So, while these scenes to follow are very "Hollywood" the scenes are simple to understand about the nature of leadership and the disaster that can be a politically correct military:
- Scene (1) ~ 2:13 (Lack of Understanding) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O4WuWd3dGQ. Pay attention to the language starting around the 0:27 mark.
- Scene (2) ~ 1:05 (Results Appreciated) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyDdoVIXNow
I am not suggesting cruel and unusual punishment be the order of the day for any military leader. Yet, there are men and women that have families and friends that care about them and will die when they are NOT prepared led by glory hounds or egotist who care little for them except as cannon fodder (stepping stones) because of a misguided understanding of their roles( their duty) to those they lead.
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Here are two additional commentaries for RP evaluations:
> The politically correct military: Stress cards and the correlation to safe spaces -https://www.foxnews.com/us/the-politically-correct-military-stress-cards-and-the-correlation-to-safe-spaces
> THE CIVILIAN PUTSCH OF 2018: DEBUNKING THE MYTH OF A CIVIL-MILITARY LEADERSHIP RIFT (65 pages) - https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a407262.pdf
Both are interesting reads. I am making no comment, save read them!
> The politically correct military: Stress cards and the correlation to safe spaces -https://www.foxnews.com/us/the-politically-correct-military-stress-cards-and-the-correlation-to-safe-spaces
> THE CIVILIAN PUTSCH OF 2018: DEBUNKING THE MYTH OF A CIVIL-MILITARY LEADERSHIP RIFT (65 pages) - https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a407262.pdf
Both are interesting reads. I am making no comment, save read them!
The politically correct military: Stress cards and the correlation to safe spaces
Just about every veteran who served during the past twenty years has heard about the infamous stress cards.
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Disagree... I've noticed the term "politically correct" tends to get used as a evil buzz word anytime any member of an unpopular minority group attempts to receive equal treatment...
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I have both views. Yes I agree that Political correctness is destroying our country. As a Nation we have become soft, and unable to handle true had facts. In the famous words of George Carlin "We have resorted to Soft Language. Language that doesn't offend or bother anyone else." What I don't understand is why is it deemed "cute" when a kid is playing COD with their parents, but when they talk about guns in school it's a crime?
The reason I don't agree with this article is because I don't agree with Political Correctness. I enjoy offending others, because I refuse to alter my views and perceptions just to appease those who can't think outside of their own little world. It seems that we have forgotten what it means to be human. As a society we have become afraid of offending that we allow ourselves to be trampled. If I have views that others don't agree with, it should be OK!!! it just means that I have my perceptions and they have theirs. It's now considered wrong to have a personal opinion that differs or "upsets" the masses.
On the flip side to that, there needs to be balance. You can't go around being racist or spewing hatred, but there's no reason to feel that you have to align your thoughts and views with others for fear of being labeled "politically incorrect" I don't view topics as sensitive, or taboo. I enjoy having meaningful and heartfelt conversations about all topics and if we continue to hide behind closed doors for fear of offending then we lose ourselves as individuals.
We are all unique because of our differences and perceptions. The reason we have so much advancement and development in modern societies is because individuals with new ideas and new perspectives are able work with others, and that difference of opinion shapes the world we live in.
The reason I don't agree with this article is because I don't agree with Political Correctness. I enjoy offending others, because I refuse to alter my views and perceptions just to appease those who can't think outside of their own little world. It seems that we have forgotten what it means to be human. As a society we have become afraid of offending that we allow ourselves to be trampled. If I have views that others don't agree with, it should be OK!!! it just means that I have my perceptions and they have theirs. It's now considered wrong to have a personal opinion that differs or "upsets" the masses.
On the flip side to that, there needs to be balance. You can't go around being racist or spewing hatred, but there's no reason to feel that you have to align your thoughts and views with others for fear of being labeled "politically incorrect" I don't view topics as sensitive, or taboo. I enjoy having meaningful and heartfelt conversations about all topics and if we continue to hide behind closed doors for fear of offending then we lose ourselves as individuals.
We are all unique because of our differences and perceptions. The reason we have so much advancement and development in modern societies is because individuals with new ideas and new perspectives are able work with others, and that difference of opinion shapes the world we live in.
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Political Correctness has it's roots in Cultural Marxism's agenda to subvert traditional cultural norms. A quick web search will lead to all sorts of explanations of this theoretical concept, also referred to as the "Frankfurt School" since it's main proponents were Marxist political philosophers in Frankfurt Germany that emigrated to the U.S. to escape Hitler, bringing their ideas with them.
This article actually scratches the surface of what has become the bane of our Republic. Political Correctness uses euphemisms to disguise it's true nature. As has been said before, Satan's most successful lie was his convincing people that he doesn't exist. Likewise, proponents of P.C. insist everyone use alternate terminology that sounds good on its surface. The word Progressive for example, invokes a feeling of progress or forward movement, that Progressives are trying to move society forward to greater prosperity. If only we'd relinquish control over to them since they're obviously more enlightened and benevolent.
Referring to Blacks as African-Americans invokes a continued culture of slavery and racism in order to divide Blacks from the rest of American society. (Interesting to see one of these race-baiters' reaction when confronted with a white person who was actually born in Africa and emigrated to the U.S. like Teresa Heinz Kerry or Charlize Theron, actual African-Americans.)This Balkanization of the country is being used to classify people into special groups with special rights. The concept outlined in George Orwell's "Animal Farm," where everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others.
It's time for this to end. It's tearing the country apart.
This article actually scratches the surface of what has become the bane of our Republic. Political Correctness uses euphemisms to disguise it's true nature. As has been said before, Satan's most successful lie was his convincing people that he doesn't exist. Likewise, proponents of P.C. insist everyone use alternate terminology that sounds good on its surface. The word Progressive for example, invokes a feeling of progress or forward movement, that Progressives are trying to move society forward to greater prosperity. If only we'd relinquish control over to them since they're obviously more enlightened and benevolent.
Referring to Blacks as African-Americans invokes a continued culture of slavery and racism in order to divide Blacks from the rest of American society. (Interesting to see one of these race-baiters' reaction when confronted with a white person who was actually born in Africa and emigrated to the U.S. like Teresa Heinz Kerry or Charlize Theron, actual African-Americans.)This Balkanization of the country is being used to classify people into special groups with special rights. The concept outlined in George Orwell's "Animal Farm," where everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others.
It's time for this to end. It's tearing the country apart.
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lol....give me a break.....we all know that the 30-50 years olds primarily shoulder the burdened with supporting all other generations......and when we age out and can't work they entire system will collapse or the "new" generations of 30-50 year olds (aka our kids) will have to step up.......it the circle of life......has been....always will be.
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This article, if read from top to bottom expels many different thoughts and opinions on many matters, not all to do with the military. The essence of the article pertaining to the military leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth. But there are truths within.
If you are refer to this quote by the writer "We have become so obsessed with political correctness that we are almost to the point we cannot function as a country" my answer is, "Yes I agree"
Now, do I think the military is too "Politically Correct", again yes I agree.
It seems to me that "PC" is just a label for things too uncomfortable to talk about openly and truthfully. think on that one for a minute.
I believe that the military should be an all voluntary force, with the ranks be filled with INTELLIGENT, STRONG, HEALTHY and ETHICAL individuals. Now the question is, how could we accomplish this? I believe that if American Citizens are guaranteed above average pay, above average benefits, and above average health care, while in and after they leave the service it could be done. If the government could keep such a promise and not be "PC" our military would be the best fighting forces in history and a mandatory service wouldn't be necessary.
One other thing, if a member of any of the US Military comes under hostile fire or is wounded during time of WAR they should forever be exempt from federal income tax.
If you are refer to this quote by the writer "We have become so obsessed with political correctness that we are almost to the point we cannot function as a country" my answer is, "Yes I agree"
Now, do I think the military is too "Politically Correct", again yes I agree.
It seems to me that "PC" is just a label for things too uncomfortable to talk about openly and truthfully. think on that one for a minute.
I believe that the military should be an all voluntary force, with the ranks be filled with INTELLIGENT, STRONG, HEALTHY and ETHICAL individuals. Now the question is, how could we accomplish this? I believe that if American Citizens are guaranteed above average pay, above average benefits, and above average health care, while in and after they leave the service it could be done. If the government could keep such a promise and not be "PC" our military would be the best fighting forces in history and a mandatory service wouldn't be necessary.
One other thing, if a member of any of the US Military comes under hostile fire or is wounded during time of WAR they should forever be exempt from federal income tax.
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Two areas were noted. 1. The PC situation in the military, which is deteriorating the fighting effectiveness of our military. Not so much on the enlisted component, but, far more critical, in the top leadership. Commanding Officers are being relieved nearly every day for really dumb reasons, along with our top enlisted members. When someone has the intellect and experience to get to these exalted levels, if they are removed it should be for reasons other than what has been done in the past and managed on an administrative level. Was that level of perfection required during our Wars that we son of our top leadership? I think not! Give me someone that can fight and win battles any time over some prissy PC individual that would not know what to do if there was an incoming round.
The second was the illustration of the youth and the older people. Our system was not designed to provide for the largesse we are seeing today. When I see a depiction as that one shows, I realize that we are in big trouble. The Constitution provided for the equal opportunity for all on and individual basis. It was NOT to provide health and comfort to everyone that don't want to work or live within the capitalist system that has served us so well. If we have children, we had their education subsidized by the local taxpayers for about twelve years, then we continued to pay back for the rest of our lives, based on the appraised value of our homes. Many of us paid into Social Security for decades and you will note that is says "insurance". Would you like it if your life insurance company said you have too much money so we don't want to pay out. I still pay far more taxes than 95% of the countries working population, and have little to say how it is spent. I followed the guidelines that the government stated years ago, as to how to prepare for retirement. A three legged stool, consisting of savings, SS, and pensions. That has been available to most people living in the USA since FDR.
The second was the illustration of the youth and the older people. Our system was not designed to provide for the largesse we are seeing today. When I see a depiction as that one shows, I realize that we are in big trouble. The Constitution provided for the equal opportunity for all on and individual basis. It was NOT to provide health and comfort to everyone that don't want to work or live within the capitalist system that has served us so well. If we have children, we had their education subsidized by the local taxpayers for about twelve years, then we continued to pay back for the rest of our lives, based on the appraised value of our homes. Many of us paid into Social Security for decades and you will note that is says "insurance". Would you like it if your life insurance company said you have too much money so we don't want to pay out. I still pay far more taxes than 95% of the countries working population, and have little to say how it is spent. I followed the guidelines that the government stated years ago, as to how to prepare for retirement. A three legged stool, consisting of savings, SS, and pensions. That has been available to most people living in the USA since FDR.
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