Do you believe counseling soldiers has better results than making them do PT?

Speaking as a soldier, the best thing you can do for a lower enlisted soldier is not to just counsel them, but also help them to be a better person. The times when ive been motivated to be a better soldier are not when im told i have to do it because its my job, but because i want to do it for my NCO. This all comes back to respect for leadership and reciprocating that respect instead of being a brick wall that soldiees are afraid to approach and talk to or work with. Of course there are soldiers that dont want to be in. And they arent able to be helped. But like the old saying goes "help me help you". You need to help a soldier understand what his purpose is and why he needs to help his team and help himself. This is probably the unpopular oppinion and i dont think there are alot of lower enlisted on this website but this is just my opinion. I want to hear your thoughts on this.

The millennial sate a totally different animal than those that served before us. That being said, it is the job of an NCO to grab their attention and mold them in to a soldier. The NCO must find out what motivates today’s young soldiers and use it to their advantage. Once all avenues have been tried, then kick them out.

It’s not just the Army that’s becoming soft, it’s the entire United States as a whole. Society today is obviously not what it used to be. I’m no expert, but we need to do what we can to hold that traditional discipline and leadership that once made us great. I do not believe counseling soldiers teaches them ‘a lesson’ as well as PT. A petty counseling done by an NCO that would rather be making better use of his or her time is no more than a slap on the wrist or a highschool detention to soldiers, they just don’t care. Once it’s over they don’t think about it. In my opinion, PT done right will make a soldier think twice...

PT or EMI will definitely get their attention faster than having a holding hands session.

I do agree in the way talking to kids rather then taking a paddle to an ass can make them softer a healthy middle needs to be set

I have been in close to 12 years now made my mistakes, got smoked, had a few words with a Sargent when he thought a smoking wouldn't help. It all depends on the situation and the person. Smoking in the beginning worked well, but as time wore on sometimes all that was needed was hey you realize how you messed up right? That Sargent asked me to write a letter explaining how I screwed up, why I did it and how I can make sure it won't happen again. Sometimes eye openers are all that is needed. I still maintain my BMD but I see more and more of new soldiers lacking it. I don't know why D.S. are going away at A.T. schools but they helped shape me into having proper discipline. Today oh he hurt my feelings, or that person was said something I found offensive. Legitimate complaints understandable but when it is a difference of opinion, time to get huggies and a pacifier.

I find that too be true i was a much better solider and was better disciplined while i was recieving corrective training or smoke sessions as opposed to counsolings

Counseling doesn't mean anything. Most of the time they get lost anyways. Its not even a slap on the wrist. Make the soldier feel some physical pain and they will remember not to do or say that again. Just my opinion.

Its true we got a bunch of kids straight out of high school that treat it like another version of high school ,and roll around like no one is the wiser. And at the same the higher ups don't wanna take the time to straighten their soldiers out. It easier to write a consoling than smoke some for 15.

The Army had always been about molding you from a civilian to a Soldier. And for the most part made great soldiers. To assume a civilian would self form is not likely