Do you believe counseling soldiers has better results than making them do PT?

Yes I believe that counseling is very important but PT is effective also.

Counseling for professional and career development alongside skill evaluation are different than a soldier needing an attitude adjustment. If I needed to smoke somebody for attitude adjustment the only reason to use counseling statement is so there is a written record. I also used a notebook just for the purposes of making observations of my soldiers and sometimes took corrective action on the spot or used it as documentation for further action down the line. Sometime the leadership or personalities don’t mesh. Try moving the individual to another unit and let the leadership there know what’s going on. The individual may adapt and perform better if not then it may be time for the boot out of the service depending on how bad the situation is.

Unfortunately, this lack of respect for Supervisors and councilling statements carries on into their civilian jobs. I see it most in millinials.

I believe in old school boot camp the shit my uncle told me about wen he was in basic during Vietnam, ur teaching someone to go overseas and kill shit u can't coddle them kike a baby u gotta toughen them up and condition them

They both have there place in the army when I served. When I had taken over a platton once they were a total group of young undisiplined soilders if you would even call them that. First formation I seen long hair un shaved. I had the ncos fall out and had a few good words with them then I smoked the shit out of them on a 5 mile run. After run told them why, explain what I expected. Afterwards I sit each nco down individually and sit the standard to them and told them if I ever had to do that again it would reflect on there ncoer.

I agree also in my opinion they don't do enough to promote them staying busy and active. I have a son who is in now as an 11X at about the 1 1/2-year point and from what he tells me about everyday life as a soldier. From what I see there's entirely way too much time and Garrison entirely way too Lacks an atmosphere and attitude toward Fitness. That is much, much softer then the time period That I served inn 89-95

I believe the punishment should be in line with the offense. Doing push ups for hands in your pockets is fracking dumb. Doing a 1000 word essay on why one should not have their hands in their pocket, now that is more interesting. Show up late to formation, come in from 1600-2200 changing uniforms every 15 minutes and reporting to the you in the uniform of assignment with out flaw, now that is far worse than some of the smoking crap I have seen over the years. I can be very inventive when it comes to corrective counseling...and not get myself set for some dumb IG complaint.

Both, talk to them and swell their chests

Smoke the military is getting soft, need old school molding.

Counselling is better