Posted on Jan 5, 2016
Do you believe downsizing the military will be the cause of America's fall?
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Thanks for the huge number of responses! i have learned somethings about the militarys past that i probs would have never learned had i not posted this! Thank you all for your service and for teaching me more of the greatest militarys history.
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No. Failing to fix our education system will be. A strong military only goes so far if it's manned by a nation of dullards... Education, innovation and imagination are the currency of success...
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SFC Michael Hasbun
Common Core does serve a purpose though. We are currently scoring in the mid teens in the math and sciences compared to our peer nations. Common Core is good enough for them, and they are kicking our butts with it. I agree it seems convoluted, but that's kinda the point, the education system failed US, which is why it's so complicated. Our children deserve better. THEY (our kids) will get it, in time. And it's up to them to bring us back up to par with our sister nations... We can't let OUR failings hold our children back...
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SGT Bryon Sergent
Tell me again SSG Michael Hasbun, how it is wrong answer to have 5 groups of 3 equaling 15 is right over 3 groups or 5 = 15. It is the same freaking answer. 6/12ths is 1/2 no matter how you do the problem. goal post is wrong yet the ice cream cone is right yet you still get the same answer and the goal post is faster and easier that long drawn out complicated math! common core math makes as much sense as a football bat!
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SFC Michael Hasbun
SGT Bryon Sergent - I agree, it doesn't make sense to us. Why? Because the education system failed us. It DOES make sense to the kids in countries around the world who are kicking our red, white and blue fannies in the maths and sciences. We grew up with "nanny style" rote memorization. It's fine for the lower maths, but leaves our kids at a distinct disadvantage when it comes time to higher learning.
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SGT Bryon Sergent
SFC Michael Hasbun - I disagree, but that is one of the good things about this country! Not everyone is going to be a rocket jockey and does not need quantum physics to know that 3x5 and 5x3 has the same answer. Whether I have 3 groups of 5 or 5 groups of 3 I still have 15 of what ever that are grouped!
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Downsizing has occurred on many occasions and the issue was and is when the balloon goes up and large numbers of military are required. Our citizens come to the aid of our country and get slaughtered until the come up to speed being a true warrior. "We fight the war with what we have", remember that?
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MCPO Roger Collins
That is because you are not military. Most veterans and AD shortly after 9/11 do. We were unprepared which resulted in many casualties. Primarily due to reductions in the DOD by the eight years of Democrat rule. If you need more, read up on the Defense status just before WWII or the Korean Conflict.
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I wouldn't go as far as saying it would cause America's downfall. But the impact it's had, and will continue to have is quite noticable. Still though, less than a year, we'll a president that supports the Military (knock on wood, please no Clinton). America will be on the rise again.
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No, it will not cause us to fall. It may effect our ability to have the global reach we have now but not our ability to defend our homeland. Short of nuclear weapon usage, which could happen without the downsizing, someone would still have to take us on in defense of our homes.. and I don't think anyone likes their chances. If America falls, based on my limited knowledge, it will be nuclear or economical.
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As China and Korea are VAMPING up, Russia doing what they are and Iran doing there crap, it doesn't make any freaking sense to down size!
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I think any thing said would be opinion based. Our government has a habit of downsize and then build up in cycles depending on what's going on in the world, usually the build up is in response to getting caught with too few in uniform to keep up with demands. One day that habit is going to bite us a lot harder than it has in the past.
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Ryan Pecht Mr. Pecht; I suspect that hubris" and/or "self-delusion" will do the trick faster and more surely than anything else.
What you have to remember is that there are only two countries in the world with the logistical capacity to maintain an invasion of the United States of America. Would you like to take a guess at which two countries those are?
Very few are concerned about the actual EXISTENCE of the US, many more are concerned about the actual ACTIONS of the US (whether or not those concerns are justified I leave for you to determine).
What you have to remember is that there are only two countries in the world with the logistical capacity to maintain an invasion of the United States of America. Would you like to take a guess at which two countries those are?
Very few are concerned about the actual EXISTENCE of the US, many more are concerned about the actual ACTIONS of the US (whether or not those concerns are justified I leave for you to determine).
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nothing will ... American will be still wonder around like zombies if the worse happen ... one way or the other. :)
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Negative. A smaller, smarter force is more effective. Didn't you ever watch Planet of the Apes? ☺
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