Posted on Apr 17, 2018
Do you believe it is ok for active service members to degrade the POTUS on RP?
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I have seen where many veterans have been making degrading remarks about the President of the United States. However, I also have seen threads where actively serving members, verified by RP, are making disparaging remarks.
Is this thought of as a safe space where military justice does not matter?
Is this thought of as a place where military members think they can exercise their first amendment rights?
Is this thought of as a safe space where military justice does not matter?
Is this thought of as a place where military members think they can exercise their first amendment rights?
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Retired Vets use your rights, they have been earned. Active service members, stay on the hush but when you sneak some whiskey in your room and get entirely way to drunk with some boot buddies. Shit talk is gonna happen but they are getting NJP’d for the whiskey. Not for saying “Trump is a Turd”.
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I served from '71 - '04. During that time, there have been a few Presidents and more than a few policies that were disagreeable. During those 33 years, I did not ONCE disparage our President (outside of home discussions). Since retirement, THAT'S been a different matter entirely. Your oath covers your adherence to our Commander in Chief. However once retired, your freedom of speech rights return.
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Lt Col (Join to see)
Whether you are enlisted, a warrant or commissioned officer, AD, Guard or Reserve the POTUS is your commander in chief; therefore, NO ONE should be making disparaging remarks. I constantly remind those I lead that "it only takes one person to set the "tone" of respect and military bearing in a room....be that one person to set the "tone", and if you witness someone deviating, make it a point to correct the behavior in a respectful manner REGARDLESS of rank. Remember perception is everything.
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As a serving member of the US Military, I was reminded on many an occasion that we were there to preserve the Constitution of the United States, not to practice its principles. As a veteran of that service, I have an unmitigated right to criticize it if I feel that I must. Either way, I must protect it. As active duty military, I believe we wave that right when we put up our right hand and as long as that oath remains in effect. My humble opinion.
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Disparage the commander in Chief while on active duty and you will be seeking other employment while enjoying a big chicken dinner. That is a very big no-no in the regulations.
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I've not read the other comments - so forgive me if I am redundant. I believe - to a point - we have first amendment rights as active members - BUT --- I DO NOT, under any circumstances, believe we have a right to disrespect the POTUS - he IS our Commander In Chief. If you don't like your boss - keep it to yourself - or quit. I had a civilian boss at one time who taught her employees - if you don't like the way things are - change them - in positive ways - if you're going to bad-mouth the people you work for - and don't care to try to make changes - get out. Say what you want to OUT - but not while you're working there. I'm probably not saying this in a clear and concise manner, but I did the best I could. She had little respect for people who left and THEN bad-mouthed - her feeling was you should have stayed and tried to make things better, but you didn't. so you have no right to say anything. Don't like the POTUS - well, then, VOTE.
My BCT Drill told us right off the bus - this is NOT a Democracy - if that's a problem, get back on the bus, they'd get you home.
My BCT Drill told us right off the bus - this is NOT a Democracy - if that's a problem, get back on the bus, they'd get you home.
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I seem to remember when I was in that we could criticize policies, but being disrespectful to individuals was a punishable offense.
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SFC Carlton Bengry US Army
We has a civilian Commander in Chief. Voted for by the voters of the united states. We made an oath. To Me a sacred oath. Has that oath changed? I have always believed POTUS deserves ours obediances and support until our service has expired. No question. the luxury of looking back is for later
We has a civilian Commander in Chief. Voted for by the voters of the united states. We made an oath. To Me a sacred oath. Has that oath changed? I have always believed POTUS deserves ours obediances and support until our service has expired. No question. the luxury of looking back is for later
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