Posted on Apr 17, 2018
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I have seen where many veterans have been making degrading remarks about the President of the United States. However, I also have seen threads where actively serving members, verified by RP, are making disparaging remarks.
Is this thought of as a safe space where military justice does not matter?
Is this thought of as a place where military members think they can exercise their first amendment rights?
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The UCMJ exists for a reason. If we are allowed to go to a place that ignores those rules you might as well give the people a place where they can break the law but the government can't do anything about it.
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MCPO Roger Collins
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The UCMJ and DODOIG says no.
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SFC Christopher Taggart
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I've commented on this question before. I say NO...wait til you're a civilian.
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Sgt Frank Staples
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It's simply not appropriate. Would you make remarks about your boss in civilian life on social media? I always told my guys that if they had a problem with me to come talk to me...but heaven help you for comments made in public. Besides, what service member in their right mind would take slick hilly over trump? Trump likes the military and hilly has said publicly that she has no use for the military. Do you mean that some in the service would rather have hillary? I'm shocked!
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CW3 Jim Norris
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Not OK at all. God knows when Clinton was president, it galled me to know end to serve as a career officer, but I kept my mouth shut and voted for whoever ran against him, sent money to the impeachment organizations....and then just gritted my teeth when one of my troops would ask me my opinion. No one can force anyone to do as I did, however I took an oath and I keep it still, that oath does not allow for active duty to disparage ANY president. Consider what you swore to do, and follow your values.
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SSG Brian MacBain
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If you are a active service member and you want to end your career, then go ahead. Say anything on social media so everyone can see. If you like it or not, he is your Commander in Chief. When you signed that dotted line to join, you also agree to "do away with" some of your rights while you serve.
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SP5 Geoffrey Vannerson
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Whether it is a time of peace or war, we who have served and those who currently do are bound first and foremost by the U.S. constitution and the declaration of independence, closely followed by the oath of enlistment. Mark A. Milley the general of the Army still has a boss and that boss is President Trump. Doesn't matter if Gen MIlley voted for him or likes him or his views he is still his boss. Often we forget just what we said when we raised our right hand(s):
I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed ...
This includes the first amendment which is one of the ones that is being most challenged and line-itemed to fit where a minority feel it is most needed. Verbal expression is better than physical aggression when it comes to actions within the United States. We are so divided at this point it's only a matter of time before the lid blows off this whole thing and we revert back to 1861 only instead of North v.s South it may be Dem v.s Rep for control of the nation. JMO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjo-lHXlp7k
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SPC Patricia  K. (Williams) Elliott
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No I don't!! As it was explained to me 44 years ago my personal opinion of the POTUS should be kept to myself!!! Regardless of who he is or what I think of him he is essentially my boss and I'm required to show respect. I don't understand today's military or the people wearing the uniform. When you take that oath you are not a free agent anymore!! You follow orders and regulations or your out and if you do leave you better pray you leave clean without disciplinarian action that can follow you into the civilian market! Where did the pride and respect go? Just my opinion because I'm sure that this isn't as widespread as I'm thinking it is but I can't help but be a little saddened by this question!
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LCDR Rolland Fitch
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There is another side of this, and that is the rabid partisan cheerleading for the President in the government work place. I don't know how prevalent it is on the military side but, I have seen outrageous partisanship on the civilian side off the government. It is not just an attitude of the President can do no wrong but I have heard viscous on people who express a different opinion. If a person were to walk through the offices of a civilian agency today, they could easily find Hatch Act violations all over.
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When he talks poorly about our intel community or military leaders I’d say it’s fair game.
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CW2 (Join to see) *i am clearly wrong. Thanks for the direction.
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SGT Dan Gray I changed my position with the information presented to me. For some reason that wasn’t good enough for you Sgt. Dan?
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SGT Dan Gray I’m I warrant...
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SGT Dan Gray lol an Lt with nearly ten years of active service got it
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