Posted on Apr 17, 2018
Do you believe it is ok for active service members to degrade the POTUS on RP?
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I have seen where many veterans have been making degrading remarks about the President of the United States. However, I also have seen threads where actively serving members, verified by RP, are making disparaging remarks.
Is this thought of as a safe space where military justice does not matter?
Is this thought of as a place where military members think they can exercise their first amendment rights?
Is this thought of as a safe space where military justice does not matter?
Is this thought of as a place where military members think they can exercise their first amendment rights?
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Its a whole different Military in today's World. I hear and read today's soldiers complaining about everything from not having enough time to finish college degrees during active duty, gender reassignment surgery to what type of disability can they get. I have learned to accept that but strongly agree that you hold your tongue and treat your chain of command with the respect of that position. The POTUS has treated the Military with respect and is not afraid to show it. If he fails then it means that we have failed with him. I am saying that you should support your chain of command or get the F@#k out. That is the Infantry in Me where insubordination is very toxic and hazardous to your life in the battlefield.
SPC Kendra
Bco 3/327th Infantry
SPC Kendra
Bco 3/327th Infantry
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The real question is, did you have a problem with it when Obama was president?
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COL (Join to see) Sir, absolutely not. Even on their own Facebook pages that do not show any pictures of them in uniform is not appropriate for them to degrade POTUS. There is a perception that anyone in uniform speaks for the Armed Forces regardless if we are in uniform or not. UCMJ is not voided because someone wants to become a cyber warrior.
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COL (Join to see)
I didn't even read what you said. Love the profile pic so I gave a thumbs up. Yea, your comment is on the mark too.
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Active Military members are supposed to check their politics at the door. They can vote, they can make monetary contributions, they can even have political discussions with Friends when not at government property. But the UCMJ clearly states that they may not disparage elected officials in public, or on duty.
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PO2 William Kennison
Just think of it like this, all those stored up times the POTUS messed up royally in your opinion gets to come out 1 week after your EOS date unless you are in a rating that requires you to remain subject to recall for X amount of years. Then you get to keep track and run for office to make things better in your idea of an ideal world.
Until keep your eyes and ears open and your pie hole shut!
Until keep your eyes and ears open and your pie hole shut!
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SSgt Kurt Behnke
Actually, if your friends are not in the military, even when in civilian clothes, and after you become a civilian, they still see you as a representative of the military, your opinion is yours, but what you do off base definitely reflects what you do on base, the same is true with opinions, look at the POTUS and twitter. OMG, this applies to us all. Thank you for your service to our great nation and the sacrifices of others to preserve it. This also means not expressing an opinion which is secular and might compromise the freedoms of another as a representative of the USA, unless the other is subversive to the Constitution, then take them out.
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maybe they do think like that, but he is the boss and if you don't like it go home where you feel safe
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It is a shame that people cannot remember the oath they took when they enlisted, which is to obey the orders of those appointed over them, which includes the president. All military members are to be technically, physically, spiritually and mentally ready to carry out their duties as assigned to them. I believe if you have an issue with that, then you need to seek help. If you have problems with the POTUS then you need to seek the guidance and counseling you need to be either be able to support the person, or, find the right avenue to be discharged. All of us who served in the past 40 or so years volunteered to do so, if you cannot support your nation and its leadership, no matter who it is, then you probably should be looking for employment elsewhere. One other thing, it amazes me how so many people will not give President Trump the benefit of the doubt when it comes to who the man is today versus who he was in the past. People can and do change, I know I have as I got older, and I believe our president has changed for the positive as well over the past few years.
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LCDR Rolland Fitch
I agree with you that military personnel are subject to the orders of the President. I would just hope that the other civilian leadership, as well as uniformed Senior leadership would advise the President against what might be an outrageous or inappropriate action.
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No, while you are in uniform you represent the United States Of America and the President is your Commander IN Chief. Any disrespect should not be tollarated!
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No. Definitely not. It’s actually against the UCMJ if I recall correctly. It’s also just plain dumb.
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As our brothers and sisters on here we paid our dues and couldn’t wait to get out of active status so you can express your concerns about any issues without retaliations.
ALSO, none of us had the experience of serving under a President who’s so volatile, that you don’t know when the next World War will start because of his mouth. He constantly say one thing and does something else and lacks deplomacy when dealing internationally, never the less domestically.
His behavior in office caters the behavior of our young generation wearing the uniform. He is fostering that behavior by his own actions and although many of us old heads are wondering what in the hell is going on, truly our president cares less.
Knowing of him back in the 70s in New York, that’s how he performs. He loves to bring chaos to rattle chains, sit back and watch, and if it fails, he moves on to another issue and try again.
How can you punish someone, when your Leader is doing the same thing?
ALSO, none of us had the experience of serving under a President who’s so volatile, that you don’t know when the next World War will start because of his mouth. He constantly say one thing and does something else and lacks deplomacy when dealing internationally, never the less domestically.
His behavior in office caters the behavior of our young generation wearing the uniform. He is fostering that behavior by his own actions and although many of us old heads are wondering what in the hell is going on, truly our president cares less.
Knowing of him back in the 70s in New York, that’s how he performs. He loves to bring chaos to rattle chains, sit back and watch, and if it fails, he moves on to another issue and try again.
How can you punish someone, when your Leader is doing the same thing?
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LTC (Join to see) Use of ‘Anonymous‘ as a ID on Rally Point annoys me.
No problem, to prevent myself from accidently giving them a vote, I recently ‘blocked’ all of them I could locate!
Seek responsiblity and accept responsibility !
No problem, to prevent myself from accidently giving them a vote, I recently ‘blocked’ all of them I could locate!
Seek responsiblity and accept responsibility !
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