Posted on Apr 25, 2017
Do you believe that, prior to the election, President Trump sexually assaulted any women?
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The election is over. President Trump is the elected President - and we are all obliged to respect him as such. That isn't the same as giving him a free pass for (alleged) past transgressions. With all of the campaign hoopla over, it's a fair time to re-examine important questions about our elected leadership. This isn't about starting arguments - just about finding out what people believe.
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Are you going to present any credible evidence on the topic or is this just a red meat survey? A Major in the U.S. Army taking a survey about the president sexually assaulting women. You should send this one to your chain of command too, see what they think, you know, to get a good feel for where their heads are on their boss.
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SSG Carlos Madden - The discussion has taken unusually angry, threatening, and wholly unintended turn. I feel deep anguish for the young 15 year old girl who was tied to a bed, raped, repeatedly slapped, and threatened with her own and her family's disappearance and/or death if she ever disclosed what happened. I should not allow my personal horrors to affect my discretion here. So, I withdrew a few comments. Warmest Regards, Sandy :)
Cpl Jeff N.
MAJ Bryan Zeski - So, Bryan, are you going to be sending the survey up your command structure. I mean, if it is an innocent and innocuous as you now seem to indicate I am sure it is a good ice breaker topic for the next command meeting.
"Hey, to get the meeting started let's all talk about Bryan's survey of the president being guilty of sexual assault. Let's go around the table. We will start with the LT's first and let them twist in the breeze a bit. So, LT Smith, what say you? Is your president, the civilian command authority over the military a sexual predator? There are no wrong answers here LT Smith, what say you?
I appreciate you trying to back it down a little bit but you should know, as a field grade office in the US Army, this is over the top. You have made plenty of posts about your absolute disdain for the guy at the top of your command structure, in a very public way. Everyone is allowed policy differences but you go well beyond those. Your oath is to the US Constitution. Your command structure has the president at the top of it. Would you take the same poll about a general officer in your command structure? I think not.
"Hey, to get the meeting started let's all talk about Bryan's survey of the president being guilty of sexual assault. Let's go around the table. We will start with the LT's first and let them twist in the breeze a bit. So, LT Smith, what say you? Is your president, the civilian command authority over the military a sexual predator? There are no wrong answers here LT Smith, what say you?
I appreciate you trying to back it down a little bit but you should know, as a field grade office in the US Army, this is over the top. You have made plenty of posts about your absolute disdain for the guy at the top of your command structure, in a very public way. Everyone is allowed policy differences but you go well beyond those. Your oath is to the US Constitution. Your command structure has the president at the top of it. Would you take the same poll about a general officer in your command structure? I think not.
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MAJ Bryan Zeski
Cpl Jeff N. - I didn't back down from anything. I never made a claim as to the President's indiscretions or not. I said it was a topic worth having a discussion about. In fact, the real object of my post wasn't about the President it all, it was about finding out whether people who thought he was a sexual abuser voted for him anyway. I'm happy that most who voted for him didn't think that.
Why would I put it through my Chain of Command any more than I would any other RP topic of discussion. As you can see, unlike others who choose to rant about liberals and snowflakes from the anonymity of their hidden profiles, I have never tried to hide behind anonymity. These are my comments, statements, and viewpoints, and I stand by them.
Can you point to any posts where I've been anything but honest or respectfully disagreed with the President? If so, feel free to present your evidence.
Would I take the same poll about a general officer in my command structure? If that general officer were found to have said similar statements on recorded audio tape, then yes. However, as I pointed out in another post here - there are no general officers in my command structure who would remain in my command structure after having said those things, and being recorded saying them, because they would have been removed for conduct unbecoming and a loss in their trust to lead Soldiers. But, if I were to find out, and heard, that a general officer in my command had made statements admitting to, and condoning sexual harassment, you can rest assured that I would feel fully within my rights to comment on it.
Sexual harassment shouldn't be tolerated - by anyone, anywhere, anytime. Don't you agree? What's that SHARP saying? "Not in my Army."
Why would I put it through my Chain of Command any more than I would any other RP topic of discussion. As you can see, unlike others who choose to rant about liberals and snowflakes from the anonymity of their hidden profiles, I have never tried to hide behind anonymity. These are my comments, statements, and viewpoints, and I stand by them.
Can you point to any posts where I've been anything but honest or respectfully disagreed with the President? If so, feel free to present your evidence.
Would I take the same poll about a general officer in my command structure? If that general officer were found to have said similar statements on recorded audio tape, then yes. However, as I pointed out in another post here - there are no general officers in my command structure who would remain in my command structure after having said those things, and being recorded saying them, because they would have been removed for conduct unbecoming and a loss in their trust to lead Soldiers. But, if I were to find out, and heard, that a general officer in my command had made statements admitting to, and condoning sexual harassment, you can rest assured that I would feel fully within my rights to comment on it.
Sexual harassment shouldn't be tolerated - by anyone, anywhere, anytime. Don't you agree? What's that SHARP saying? "Not in my Army."
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Cpl Jeff N.
MAJ Bryan Zeski - You can rest assured there are people with skeletons in their closet serving around you today at all levels. Every now and then they get exposed and we all gasp. Any sort of harassment or assault (sexual or otherwise) should not be condoned. SHARP was after my time. We seemed to be able to function without it. I am not sure it is making much of a difference. I know the standard answer is "imagine how much worse it would be if we didn't have it". I don't buy that sort of logic.
I appreciate that you do not hide behind a fake or unverified profile. There are many that do. You and I also know that if you told your CO you were running polls on president Trump being guilty of sexual assault on a site with military members he would likely tell you that was ill advised and contrary to what a Major in the US Army ought to be doing, period.
Your posts are not policy related. You have a deep dislike for Trump and have not tried to hide it on RP. Perhaps you think that is a good idea. I think most officers would tell you it is not. Policy differences yes, delving into unproven, unsubstantiated crimes against the President, not so much. Trying to hide them in "innocuous" polls might make you feel better but it is poor form.
I appreciate that you do not hide behind a fake or unverified profile. There are many that do. You and I also know that if you told your CO you were running polls on president Trump being guilty of sexual assault on a site with military members he would likely tell you that was ill advised and contrary to what a Major in the US Army ought to be doing, period.
Your posts are not policy related. You have a deep dislike for Trump and have not tried to hide it on RP. Perhaps you think that is a good idea. I think most officers would tell you it is not. Policy differences yes, delving into unproven, unsubstantiated crimes against the President, not so much. Trying to hide them in "innocuous" polls might make you feel better but it is poor form.
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I voted for Trump. I had no choice. I have worked for Clinton and I knew what kind of evil she was.
Did I have some concerns about Trump? For a second and then I dismissed them. Not because I am some crazy anti-democrat that blindly follows conservatism. I dismissed it was for one reason only. It had become popular in the mainstream media to bash anybody that contradicted the liberal agenda. They did this with half truths and misquotes. So when something that might truly be news worthy comes out I dismiss it as propaganda. When the mass media screams that the sky is falling I don't even look up anymore. Chances are pretty good I am not going to get hit in the head.
The moral of the story. Liberals should demand factual news consistently and maybe the other half of America will actually believe them. Had this been a real story reported by someone believable, who's only concerned with reporting facts Trump may have not got a pass by us moderates.
Did I have some concerns about Trump? For a second and then I dismissed them. Not because I am some crazy anti-democrat that blindly follows conservatism. I dismissed it was for one reason only. It had become popular in the mainstream media to bash anybody that contradicted the liberal agenda. They did this with half truths and misquotes. So when something that might truly be news worthy comes out I dismiss it as propaganda. When the mass media screams that the sky is falling I don't even look up anymore. Chances are pretty good I am not going to get hit in the head.
The moral of the story. Liberals should demand factual news consistently and maybe the other half of America will actually believe them. Had this been a real story reported by someone believable, who's only concerned with reporting facts Trump may have not got a pass by us moderates.
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SGT William Howell
SPC Erich Guenther - Before I went to work with the State I had worked with a Secret Service Agent who had always had the First Lady Detail. He said Barbra Bush was the most wonderful and sweet person. He said, and I quote, "Hillary was the most hateful vindictive lesbian bitch" he had ever met. When Clinton got reelected he transferred out of the Secret Service. When we would find out Clinton was coming to Afghanistan everybody that could find a reason would leave Kabul. That bitch would walk around and wispier over to one of her lackies and next thing you knew you were fired, No reason given. You were just put on a plane back to the States.
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SGT J M Porters
So true look at the stands that the media holds it owns too. Monca was not as dumb as they thought she was she kept the skirt to preserve the evidence!! LOL
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SPC Erich Guenther
SGT William Howell - I had a friend that was a MAJ in the TXARNG and was deployed to Bosnia, he said when Madelline Albright came to visit she would demand nothing less than 400+ thread count sheets.....it was his job to find accomodations in a war zone that could accomodate her sheet requirements (ha-ha, that does sound like something the Army would do.....detail a MAJ to do that), finally he gave up and had some expressed over from Europe and had the hotel put them on the bed in her room. Now that sounded ridiculous to me but the TXARNG MAJ has always been honest with me. I just cannot understand how people begin to feel like royalty once they get to certain level of government.
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SGT William Howell
SPC Erich Guenther - Back in the heyday of Iraq the KY Guard was trying to woo other states to send their units to us for certification as combat ready before deployment. I did a PSD mission for a couple months for these generals coming in from other states to look at our training facilities. (We were really just glorified drivers and were just called a security detail.) Some of the generals were super chill and a couple were quirky. The LA AG had to have a certain type of wine after diner. Which would not have been bad other than the training site was in a dry county and it was a hour trip each way to a liquor store. Another general, whose name will never be reveled, had a thing for titty bars. We would load him up take him to the strip club at night. He was fun, but he like to touch the girls. We had to sweet talk the bouncers into not throwing us out and let them know we would keep him in check. As an E-5 I had no clue that some general officers were so demanding. It was enlightening.
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I believe he is innocent, until PROVEN guilty, in a court of law. The increasing frequency of sexual assault claims against conservative men is not the problem. The problem is a hyper-liberal media that treats these claims as if they were proven fact. We are standing the Rule of Law on it's head if we expect people to lose jobs, make apologies, or get impeached based on claims alone.
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