Posted on May 4, 2016
Do you believe that these West Point first classman are violating the UCMJ by making a political statement while in uniform?
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DOD directive 1344.10 states:
-A member of the Armed Forces on active duty may:
4.1.1.3. Join a partisan or nonpartisan political club and attend its meetings when NOT in uniform, subject to the restrictions of subparagraph 4.1.2.4. (See DoD Instruction 1334.1 (Reference (c).)
From the article "Racism Within West Point"
http://www.inthearenafitness.com/index.php/racism-within-west-point
-A member of the Armed Forces on active duty may:
4.1.1.3. Join a partisan or nonpartisan political club and attend its meetings when NOT in uniform, subject to the restrictions of subparagraph 4.1.2.4. (See DoD Instruction 1334.1 (Reference (c).)
From the article "Racism Within West Point"
http://www.inthearenafitness.com/index.php/racism-within-west-point
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Edited 8 y ago
Posted 8 y ago
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Marlene Hessler
That is how the social disorganizers operate. Little molehills til one day they pile up to a mountain. Who ever would think that when OUR ENEMIES ARE BEHEADING PEOPLE, we/OUR so called Leaders are focused on WHO GETS TO USE THE TOILETS.
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Are you guys serious? It's not hard to see its for the BLM or BP movements, you can try to cast doubt all day but if you're honest with yourselves, you know what and why they took this picture for.
If you want to be an activist, do it all day, but in uniform? On a military academy, in front of the barracks?
There is a reason the Military needs to stay impartial with political movements and Social Justice Warrior campaign. If for some reason you don't understand this reason, many here have highlighted the regulations detailing the reasons. Imagine if the military supported political or the like, movements... Just think about that for a second.
If you want to be an activist, do it all day, but in uniform? On a military academy, in front of the barracks?
There is a reason the Military needs to stay impartial with political movements and Social Justice Warrior campaign. If for some reason you don't understand this reason, many here have highlighted the regulations detailing the reasons. Imagine if the military supported political or the like, movements... Just think about that for a second.
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Marlene Hessler
The rules are to AVOID EVEN THE PERCEPTION OF WRONGDOING.
These folks are UNFIT FOR LEADERSHIP in our military.
SHOW THEM THE GATE.
These folks are UNFIT FOR LEADERSHIP in our military.
SHOW THEM THE GATE.
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Let begin with the question classman, I see classwomen, so what I see it is more of perception; People will read a photo based upon their own individual knowledge and perceptions formed by knowledge and experience but with all things being equal why are we not calling them Classwomen?
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CPT Pedro Meza
Marlene Hessler - Assyrian depictions of the goddess Ishtar show her raising a clenched fist.[2] A raised fist was used as a logo by the Industrial Workers of the World[3] in 1917. The graphic symbol was popularized in 1948 by Taller de Gráfica Popular, a print shop in Mexico that used art to advance revolutionary social causes.[4] The symbol has been picked up and incorporated around the world by various groups who perceive they are oppressed. In 2015 it has emerged in the southeast area of Ukraine among the separatists battling the Ukraine Kiev government forces, along with the phrase "¡No Pasarán!".[5]
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CPT Pedro Meza
Marlene Hessler - Ishtar (English pronunciation /ˈɪʃtɑːr/; Transliteration: DIŠTAR; Akkadian:
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Marlene Hessler
I support the UCMJ. We are a nation of laws. You mention OUR Army Rangers. I happen to know that OUR Rangers are an extremely proud group. Not one of them would support a Black Lives Matter salute by any military member in uniform.
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CPT Pedro Meza
Marlene Hessler - You are in conflict with the Ancient Goddess Ishtar, the same one that fought for your right to vote, this is not a coincidence that as we approach the 100 years anniversary of the US Women Suffragette Movement that we are seeing more women fighting for change, it started with the Women in Ranger School.
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The raised fist has many different meanings. When we see such display of pride and that what it means to me as an African American pride. Not because you may think it's racist it's a matter of your opinion. As for the fact that it women of color and you relating it to Beyoncé's Halftime show means that you have a problem with what occurred. Let's be real about the picture and realize we still have problems in America and change needs to take place. But because we look as situations and blow them way out of context in my opinion. It time to wake up America and end this drama. Because this issue military careers will be affected. Even as I tell my sons be careful what you post it will impact your future. we must be mindful.
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Yes, if they are actually making a political statement. The question implies they do. It appears that they do but until we can without a doubt know that is what they are doing it remains a question mark.
Social media is the new 'Blue Falcon'. Someone will talk if any impropriety has occurred. So IF it is as implied or accused, yes some ear pulling must be initiated.
Social media is the new 'Blue Falcon'. Someone will talk if any impropriety has occurred. So IF it is as implied or accused, yes some ear pulling must be initiated.
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It could mean many different things... This is not even the tip of the iceberg. I feel the focus is on things that don't matter or if they they are very minor. There are plenty of things I don't understand and double standards at least from my point of view.
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The story just hit the national and international media with this Fox news article.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/05/09/west-point-investigating-black-female-cadets-raised-fists-photo.html
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/05/09/west-point-investigating-black-female-cadets-raised-fists-photo.html
West Point investigating black female cadets' raised-fists photo | Fox News
The U.S. Military Academy has launched an inquiry into a photo showing 16 black, female cadets in uniform with their fists raised, an image that has spurred questions about whether the gesture violates military restrictions on political activity.
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COL Sam Russell
West Point launches inquiry into cadets' raised-fists photo
Image of black female cadets sparks questions about whether the gesture violates military restrictions on political activity
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COL Sam Russell
West Point launches inquiry into cadets' fists-raised photo
The U.S. Military Academy has launched an inquiry into a photo showing 16 black, female cadets in uniform with their fists raised, an image that has spurred questions about whether the gesture violates military restrictions on political activity.
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COL Sam Russell
Inquiry launched after West Point black female cadets raise fists in salute
The prestigious West Point military academy has opened an inquiry after 16 black female cadets posed for a photo with fists raised in militant style.
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COL Sam Russell
West Point investigating cadets' fists-raised photo
The image has been shared widely in military circles, with claims the black women are making a political statement, which would be a violation of military restrictions on political activity.
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SGT Nia Chiaraluce
SGM it's for the insinuation that they are making a stance for the "Black lives Matter" movement while in uniform.
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The public hasn't been given enough background information to come to a intelligent opinion. Did they violate a DOD Directive? Sure...but many of us have, as well. What was the real statement they were making? What was/is their intent? Was there an event or occurrence that promulgated this? Before we call 911, we need more 411.
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