Posted on Sep 25, 2015
Do you believe the 2 women Rangers passed on their own merits or were they given special treatment?
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The question implies that no two American women exist than could pass ranger training, and, of course, that's ridiculous. Anyone who has ever gone through ranger, special forces, SEAL or other trading knows it's not completely about body strength. Mental strength and determination also play a role, something women possess in abundance.
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CPL Terry Krebs
Don't make excuses sir it ain't your ass out there that has to depend GI Jane, all 120 pounds, to drag your 200+ pound ass outa trouble if your hit!!
You guys and your political correctness are going to get some really good guys killed!
You guys and your political correctness are going to get some really good guys killed!
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SFC Edwin Watson
CPL, it is one thing to disagree with an opinion, but you have been downright disrespectful.
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LTC Ed Ross
CPL Krebs. Women have been fighting alongside men since the beginning of time. Viking raiding parties often included women in their ranks. Examples of woman warriors in other cultures are too numerous to cite. Modern European/American society has placed a premium on the frail, defenseless woman, but that's not the historical norm. But go to any martial arts dojo in the country and pick a fight with a female martial arts instructor. See how that turns out. Yes there are physical differences between men and women, but some women are fully capable for combat roles and missions. Frankly, I don't want to be surrounded by frail, defenseless women. The older I get the more I appreciate strong, capable women. I spent my time in combat, two tours in Vietnam, and I know what it's all about. This isn't about political correctness for me. It's about survival of the fittest. Given the threats we face around the world and here at home, we need all the "warriors" we can find.
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At this point, I think the debate over making it through the training is just about pointless. It happened. Either they earned it or they didn't. What I think really matters now is how well they represent the tradition and honor of the Tab in the execution of their duties.
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yes, I do believe that passed on their own merits. I think women have a stronger threshold for certain things that men do not. they did not get special treatment, for people to say that are just angry because Ranger school is no longer just a guys only club......
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Hell, if they meet and or met all requirements given and passed. Why the hell not?!
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I believe no extra or special treatment were given to these outstanding Soldiers to think otherwise is ridiculous they deserved the merits and congrats from the Ranger's community and their commands
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No, I know peeps who have talked to the guys down there and they were told that the President (peice of crap) was coming and would be giving the women their award...such bullshit
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I do not know, If they did, shame on the Army. I do know that it takes the same amount of energy to combat the enemy no matter the age, gender or race of an individual. This should prove that we do not need multi standard testing. A soldier is a soldier and all soldiers should meet the same physical standards. Airborne Soldiers may need additional skills along with SF and Ranger so be it. But Basic soldier skills should be the same for all soldiers just as weapon qualification is so should PT , height and weight, and Uniform.
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All I can say is this I know what it was like when I went through a bunch of rough necks from Nam were the instructor's now you tell me if they were still teaching it today do you really think any woman would pass
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Apparently the reporter from People magazine feels she's been a target:
http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/local/military/article36836172.html
http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/local/military/article36836172.html
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