Posted on Sep 25, 2015
Do you believe the 2 women Rangers passed on their own merits or were they given special treatment?
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Given the history of the DoD when it comes to sex integration, and how the US Army addresses "tests" (predetermined outcome), I'd tend to believe some quarter was given. From a purely cosmetic perspective (if I understand the standards correctly) males' heads are shaved and the women weren't required to. And if standards were maintained, why the "need" for female liaisons at the school? If these two rather innocuous sets of standards were not maintained, what guarantees do we have that much more stringent and serious ones were?
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Anyone can go and take measures ahead of time to try to better prepare themselves for Ranger School prior to attending. I don't believe these women were given any special treatment because I haven't any sufficient reason to doubt the legitimacy of the course as they went through it. That and I've known some women to do some pretty incredible physical feats. Hell, I married a rancher's daughter. I know she can kick some serious tail if she needs to, lol.
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I think politicians are ruining the military! They think that having women go through the Army's Ranger School is a great accomplishment. The men in these Ranger Battalions are the Army's first option incase a war breakout. How can we expect that they will be able to just hop on an air plane and not knowing where they are going if they are full of women. This would be a very bad mistake for the Army if they allow this to happen.
Leaders in uniforms have to take a stance every know and then even if they have to retire. First they took the Rangers Black Beret, now they want to integrate women into the Rangers. The next thing is to have openly gay and transgender Rangers. All these big creative changes happen during democratic administrations and creates votes. Every one remember that!
Leaders in uniforms have to take a stance every know and then even if they have to retire. First they took the Rangers Black Beret, now they want to integrate women into the Rangers. The next thing is to have openly gay and transgender Rangers. All these big creative changes happen during democratic administrations and creates votes. Every one remember that!
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I say let's look at the test scores and let's look at how long they were allowed to train and prepare for ranger school. They all flunked out of the first weeks of training then were allowed to retest. How were male candidates treated on these same issues and how long were there wait to retest???
What was the generals meaning when he said "there will be females pass for ranger school?
What was the generals meaning when he said "there will be females pass for ranger school?
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As a woman myself, having been in the military also; NO matter WHAT a WOMAN looks like, being surrounded by a BUNCH of MEN. Some and I do mean to say some of those men showed those women favors, PRAYING deep down that when one or both of those women would become a little interested in them to; "JUST A LITTLE BIT"........lol
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It would be interesting to hear in confidence from the fellow ranger candidates if any special priviliges were granted or if they were in fact held to the same standards.
That said, women exercise more than women of yesteryear and i know for fact many can outrun the fastest of men. To physically endure the same training as men, ill leave that open to future discussion once the confidential statements are examined from the men of that class.
That said, women exercise more than women of yesteryear and i know for fact many can outrun the fastest of men. To physically endure the same training as men, ill leave that open to future discussion once the confidential statements are examined from the men of that class.
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PO3 B Al Eisen
Nobody is stating the most obvious possibility. The standards might have been lowered for the entire group taking the test. When I was in Bootcamp, we were the first "Ship's" Company. We carried the New Orleans' flag, members of the ship's company came and talked to us. Our program was not the standard one. The experiment was declared a failure. I have no idea what was supposed to be accomplished. When I was in ET school, males had to keep an 80% to pass. Females had to sign their name. We had a female 1st Class ET training to be an instructor. Don't tell me she had to pass anything to get there. She didn't even know that you need solder to solder two wires together. She just held the hot iron on the wires. What was she going to teach anybody?
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Do you have a Ranger Tab on your uniform? Have you been to Ranger school? If not then you really have no voice in the matter other than wishing them well.
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I believe that they were held to the same standards. That said, I would love to hear what their male classmates say about this.
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CPL Terry Krebs
Me too, all alone without anyone around to listen in and hear what they have to say about how it really was. Not what they were told to say.
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