Posted on Sep 23, 2015
CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
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[Attorney] Bowe told The Washington Times, “Jan never should have been there. We believe these abuses contributed to Greg’s death because aligning our troops with those committing these horrific acts made our troops targets and because in looking the other way commanders failed to maintain a level of control over the base necessary for safety.”

A culture of high-ranking Afghan police, politicians and warlords routinely raping boys has been the focus of war stories since the 2001 U.S.-led invasion.

An article in Monday’s editions of The New York Times, posted online Sunday, has placed new emphasis on the debauchery by pointing out that U.S. commanders generally ignore the practice, even if the crimes happen on American bases."
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/sep/22/us-military-indifference-to-afghan-sex-abuse-led-b/
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From watching law TV, I think the defense is going to paint the father as someone overreacting to his lost son and looking for revenge. The kid was already punished in Afghanistan and the father has a vendetta against the military . The commanders are going to pull out risk assessments, documents, and memos showing that protocol was followed. Then, the defense will say "charging these men for doing their jobs is a waste of the courts time when we should really be addressing child abuse from happening on U.S. Bases". They will have the jury and decorate these commanders with all their awards and stuff.

I don't think it is a winnable from a control standpoint unless they press charge RICO charges taking them outside military law.
1LT William Clardy
1LT William Clardy
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CPO Andy Carrillo, MS, holding a commander responsible for war crimes committed by his command is one thing -- you were starting to extend that argument into an accusation that a commander could be prosecuted for "jeopardizing the safety of military personnel" in a war zone.
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CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
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1LT William Clardy - If US commanders were allowing illegal activities to occur on base and it lead to the death of 3 Marines, then I hope that would be an easy case to make--war zone or at home. Command responsibility is a two-edged sword...
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1LT William Clardy
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You really should rethink how readily you reach for bigger sticks, CPO Andy Carrillo, MS. Too often, we are the most rabid dog out there.

For example, we were the ones who convicted General Yamashita for war crimes committed by troops he had no effective communications with, establishing a standard we have since tried to repudiate when it has been applied to us. We are also the ones still demanding immunity from local prosecution for our soldiers even as we express outrage when native authorities decline to prosecute their own.
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CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
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Yes, I agree that the double standard has to go. I vote we begin with those who have the greatest amount of authority and therefore responsibility to protect those with the least power and authority, e.g., the civilian population. But I'm idealistic, I admit.
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I don't agree with a law suit mainly because I hate law suits in general.

But I do think the article makes a very valid point and that on the base (US territory) our laws MUST be upheld.
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CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
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Agree on both counts. However, some entities will simply continue with 'business as usual' and won't change their shorts until their dirty laundry is aired for the world to see. I suspect that with the publicity alone US policy will change quickly--I hope.
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I concur with most assessments here that regardless of merit, the case will be stymied by political maneuvering. To my mind, this is another piece of a larger debate surrounding our involvement with LN forces, and the risks we place our personnel in when chosen to support this mission.
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CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
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Then perhaps this is where world shaming of US policy which allows humans rights violations to occur on American military bases will force the change that is needed and make bacha bazi the world pariah that it is. Cockroaches hate the light...
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