Posted on May 26, 2014
GySgt William Hardy
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 do you consider islam a legitimate religion
Many who have studied Islam have various feelings as to the status of Islam. Please respond as to why you do or do not accept Islam as a religion.
Does Islam rate protection under the Bill of Rights?
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
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Islam is a religious belief, just like Christianity and it needs to be treated with the same respect. Fanatics in Islam are not the true representatives of that religion, just as the fanatics in Christianity or any other religious belief. The Constitution is blind to race, religion, creed, religion and national origins. The Constitution promotes equality and fairness.
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MSgt Hq Usafe Afafrica Ig / Command Munitions  Inspector
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no. If you read their Holy book it is their way or die.
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SFC Robert Wheeler
SFC Robert Wheeler
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Obviously you haven't read it. What sura in the Quran states that garbage and what about some of the radical chapters in the Bible?
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MSgt Hq Usafe Afafrica Ig / Command Munitions  Inspector
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I have read the entire thing. There is a lot more hate than there is love in that book if you are a nonbeliever .
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SFC Robert Wheeler
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MSgt (Join to see) - Read the Bible my friend. There is just as much hate, war, sodomy, infanticide and more in there. Again, what sura are you referring to in the Quran. Don't bother answering. You have have lost all credibility in this discussion through your desire to hate.
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SFC Robert Wheeler
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Ok, I am going to assume that you are serious although I really wished you weren't. I have yet to see any empirical data that says any religion is legit and you are asking me if Islam is legit? Since when did we arbitrarily begin questioning whether someone's religion is legitimate? In this country, you can start a new religion every week and if you are properly incorporated and have the correct tax status, nobody questions it. Your question is insulting and looks like a dog whistle for your own particular brand of xenophobia and racism. How do you like me now? Hooah?
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PO2 Jo Wi
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Is related to Judaism and Christianity, and is the 3rd Abrahamic religion that believes in the god of Abraham.

Second, in the Treaty of Tripoli (signed by John Adams in 1796) it states that the USA is to make peace with Muslims nations per article 11:

"Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen [Muslims]; and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan [Muslim] nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

Sounds pretty legit to me. Now, just because groups like Al Qaeda and ISIS are making the religion look bad does not mean that the good followers from Indonesia or China are also bad people.
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TSgt Kenneth Ellis
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It's not a religion. It is a political system.
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COL Ted Mc
COL Ted Mc
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TSgt Kenneth Ellis - Sergeant; Have you noticed that one of the Republican contenders is concentrating his efforts on "Evangelicals"? Have you noticed that one of the Republican contenders is using a network of "Christian Pastors" as his organizing base?
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TSgt Kenneth Ellis
TSgt Kenneth Ellis
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You can not even compare it.
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TSgt Kenneth Ellis
TSgt Kenneth Ellis
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To sac Robert Wheeler. I said u was not going to down grade anyone again. You miss guided moron. It's hard to talk to an idiot like you. Because you are always right. Pleas block me because I might get the urge to comebt on one of your asinine. post.
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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
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You would call Christians radical and Islam a political system; aren't you biased;
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SGT Darryl Allen
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What studies did you find, because I doubt 1.8 billion people on this planet got it wrong. Islam is as legitimate as Christianity.
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PO2 Jo Wi
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Exactly. Indonesia (4th most populated country) happens to have the larges population of Muslims in the world. They have not bombed any buildings nor started any holy wars, right?
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COL Ted Mc
COL Ted Mc
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SGT Darryl Allen - Spec; You might find the linked news item interesting.

Of course it does come from a left-wing, liberal, socialist, commie source so it's probably completely false.

http://www.voanews.com/content/muslim-senegal-celebrates-christmas/3116967.html
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MAJ Byron Oyler
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If you want a true answer on this, you need someone that has studied Islam to a graduate or doctorate level but does not follow the faith.
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SGT Anthony Bussing
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All religion is bogus...there is no god...
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SGT Anthony Bussing
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as an atheist, I do not believe in god or any other higher power...I dont give a damn if YOU do...just keep that stuff to yourself and dont force it on me...I dont care if our money says "in god we trust" I dont care if in the 1950s the GOP included the words "under god" into our pledge of allegiance...doesnt bother me one bit...but I do not believe in your god...I was born and raised catholic...went to catholic schools...got into the real world and saw what a "loving, caring" god he was...figured if this was a god who allowed us to kill each other in his name.....for centuries...then he isnt worth praying to...so...pffft...but to answer the question...yes, Islam is the second largest religion in the world...if a muslim is here, in the US he has every right to worship as he or she sees fit...wanna pray to Allah...Satan...God...Buddha...trees, pigeons...doesnt matter...I, like many before me and most of everyone on here...has fought to allow that to happen....to tell someone that they arent welcome here because of their religious beliefs is morally wrong...even though I dont believe in god, Ill fight to the death to protect your right to worship
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PO2 Jo Wi
PO2 Jo Wi
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I'm also an atheist, but the same way there are bad Xtians and bad Muslims, there are also good Xtians and good Muslims.
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Capt Jeff S.
Capt Jeff S.
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And bad atheists... and good atheists. Go figure!
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CAPT Kevin B.
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Agree loaded question. Religion is in the eye of the beholder. We tend to think of other religions as not needed or relevant in our personal lives. That said, it's our courts that frequently weigh in through adjudicating religious liberty questions. The one that come to mind was the Sikh high school kid who was banned from having the knife (kirpan) in school. I don't remember how that turned out but the legal rub points typically boil down to public safety or not trampling rights going the other way.

Insofar as the military is concerned, the "system" staffs chaplin denominations to religions that matter, i.e. there's a demographic need that should be formally met. I recall some instruction at the time that provided some accommodation to small ones like Bahia but no formal staffing. I think the likely current mix is Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, Jewish, Muslim, and Buddhist (copied from Wiki). I'll tell you when I first came in 3 of them weren't there.

My take is to respect others and respect they can have a different religion and hope for the same in return. Lord knows there's a big time shortage of respect and an epidemic of intolerance going around.
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SFC Robert Wheeler
SFC Robert Wheeler
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I understand there is now a Pagan Army Chaplin.
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I think everyone should recognize it as a religion as much as many do not agree with it (and trust me...I do not like what I see about it either). But maybe the question should be: Are those radicals we know as Taliban, ISIS and other groups, truly Muslims?

I think we can all agree there are varying splinters of Christianity that most would see as wrong. I think history has taught us that there were periods of time when people were killed in the name of Jesus.

My bottom line is that Religion is a very dangerous thing. All it takes is one interpretation to clash with another to cause violence.
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