Posted on Mar 3, 2017
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With all the rhetoric about Russian collusion and no evidence at the present to validate the accusations.

1. Exactly what does Russia gain with a Trump Administration that affects our National Security? Foreign interference is common in elections even by the U.S.

2. Why do you believe the Trump administration would conspire with Russia?

3. Do you believe Vice President Pence or Congress would go along with this idea?
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Rich Nagler
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Obama already threw us under the bus....wake up!
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Rich Nagler
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Russia beleives the ideology of the Trump admin. is more in line than the FUHillary admin.
they wouldn't
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and NO
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Sgt Larry Wagner
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Does it really matter who is leading the country? Dem or Rep, all politicians. The real question is follow the money, who are they getting there money from? The American Ideal is just that an Ideal, something to strive for. We all fail in that. We pledge to this flag of ours. As long as long as there no liberty or justice and we keep our eyes closed, or condone, we as Americans fail in that pledge. I swore an oath to up hold and defend the Constitution and Bill of Rights for all Americans. I may disagree with you, I respect your view and your rights. Anyone included leadership that fails in that sworn oath is an enemy, betraying that that oath and a trader. So I defend all, I mean all under that oath, no exception even if I disagree with them.
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SSG James Power
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Yes. He has been throwing America under the bus his entire administration. Our standing is at an all time low in the international community. We're losing trade out on trade agreements left and right. Our allies are wondering if we're reliable (and we look like we are not). We're talking up folks like V. Putin and talking about how folks from our closest allies are rapists.

We're also exposing intelligence given to us in confidence to Russia from inside the White House.

I believe Trump is doing this because money is all he cares about and he has made a living laundering money for the Russian oligarchy. That and the threat of releasing information about Trump to the public which Russian intelligence has.
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Can you provide any evidence of proof on your accusations?
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SSG James Power
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This is a handy link for learning about Paul Manafort (if you don't already know who
he is and why he is problematic then you should reevaluate how informed you think you are): https://goo.gl/9Tm3BR. Similarly if you don't already know about Trump passing Israeli intelligence to Russian spies in the White House you are uninformed.

Beyond that, we saw Don Jr's emails where he attempted to work with the Russian government to get dirt on HRC. Any patriotic campaign would have reported Russia's overtures to the FBI, instead he gleefully went all in.

An article on the history of Trump's _known_ money laundering schemes:
https://newrepublic.com/article/143586/trumps-russian-laundromat-trump-tower-luxury-high-rises-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate
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SSG James Power -

Actually the indictments of Paul Manafort and Rick Gates is about laundering money and being unregistered agents of the Government of Ukraine between 2006 and 2015 prior to being associated with the Trump campaign.

General Flynn was indicted for lying to the FBI about contacting the Russian Government and discussing delaying a UN resolution dealing with Israeli settlements which took place after the election. As the National Security Adviser it was within his scope of duties and not illegal.

In the case of Attorney General Sessions there is no evidence of anything improper.
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SPC Wayne Pfeffer
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I think Trump would throw his own family under the bus if he thought he could make money off of it. Look at all of people from his own administration that he has praised one day and dissed the next. He does not have a code of honor.
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SMSgt Personnel
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We'll just replace the Administration with another one in 3 years ran by Wall Street, Corporate Media, Billionaires, and Neo-Liberals. The American Government is controlled by a handful of People so no I don't feel those with the real power would let anyone destroy the way things have been operating since Corporations and Big Banks took control of America. Thomas Jefferson saw this coming with Corporations having more rights than States or Individuals due to the vast amounts of money in Politics. "I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man."
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SN Terry Slansky
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If he could make a profit, yes, I believe he would
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SSgt Engineer Equipment Mechanic
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I think it’s a DAMN SHAME any of you are willing to used your status as active duty or veterans to champion your political ideology. The reason our military institutions are so highly regarded is because we have avoided that. Unfortunately we are no more than a representation of the society we are drawn from. The cancer of the current state of opinionated and uncompromising stood and stubborn politics is creeping in and you are all complicit. I don’t care what side of the aisle you are on. Politics has no place in our nations military. We give that up and we are on our way to banana republic style government. Knock it off. Humility and honor in service.
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I can understand your frustration with active duty personnel but veterans have every right to voice their opinions. The veteran voice is causing the changes in the VA. Politics has always been in the military, generals couldn't get anything done if they didn't.
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CSM Terry Boline
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He and his administration have already done that with the tax plan that was just passed. That was not meant to help anyone but a few "elite" Americans to include Trump.
As far as dealings with Russia and all the rhetoric about conspiracy, I firmly believe the business man in Trump would turn a blind eye to ensure a good "trade relation" for businesses he has in that part of the world. This could even make us vulnerable and threaten our National Security.
As far as Pence and Congress...of course they will. Pence is not quite as like minded as Trump, but close enough. Congress...as fearful, embarrassed and disgusted as they were at the onset have now resolved themselves to back the Party line and Trumps wishes, as well as the "money donors" and their interests.
I realize this will not bode well for a lot of people who will read this because generally active and retired military personnel support the Republican Party. Well in this case I ask you to look at will support America and Americans the best.
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SP5 Billy Mullins
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After what is beginning to come out about the previous administration lawlessness and how Hillary Clinton enriched themselves while at State dept, not to mention the Uranium One fiasco, I would not cast dispersion upon the current administration. The agencies in the government have become politicized against the American peoples best interest. You really can't make it up what corruption at the upper levels exist.
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SSgt W. Aaron Gregory
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Russians did not have to "hack our elections" (with or without collusion with Donald Trump) or advertise on Facebook for me to know that I did not want Hillary Clinton as president of the United States, I do not care if she were running against Donald Trump, or Donald Duck.

1. I believe they wanted to thaw U.S. / Russian Relations. Counterpoint - What do Pro-Caliphate countries gain by contributing so much money to the Clintons?

2. Pre-election, we call it conspiring... but post-elections, we'd call them summits or talks. Okay, fine. Post-election friction (since we're rubbing Russia the wrong way now) would dictate that the conspiring was not real. It just does not seem to make any algebraic sense to have done so.
Answer: I do not believe anyone conspired with Russia - except for Hillary Clinton and the Obama Administration.

3. Absolutely not.
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