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Drug enforcement and use has been a problem for centuries. Is it time to shift gears and become more permissive with these habits?
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/19/world/global-debate-over-war-on-drugs-heads-to-un-general-assembly.html?_r=0
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/19/world/global-debate-over-war-on-drugs-heads-to-un-general-assembly.html?_r=0
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This is not a new opinion for me. Absolutely, we need to legalize drugs. However, with the caveat that users will be held fully accountable for their actions while under the influence. Sadly, when we ended the prohibition on alcohol, we returned to the legal philosophy of reduced accountability by virtue of diminished capacity. On the contrary, I would hold users accountable as though they acted with malice aforethought inasmuch as the use of the drug (and also alcohol) is voluntary and the user must be assumed to know that they will suffer diminished capacity while under the influence.
I won't waste anyone's time recounting the irreparable harm to society by prohibition as well as its failure to accomplish its intended goals.
I won't waste anyone's time recounting the irreparable harm to society by prohibition as well as its failure to accomplish its intended goals.
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CPT Jack Durish
Sgt Richard Buckner - But the prohibition on drugs lingers on. I didn't realize I had to explain
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PO3 Steven Sherrill
CPT Jack Durish LSD will be the drug of choice for most then as that dragon in front of the door will stop them from going out and doing stupid things.
Now more seriously, I fully agree. I think you nailed it. Add alcohol to the list of drugs, put a set of COMMON SENSE laws as to crime and punishment while under the influence of any substance covered by the statute, and enforce those laws.
Now more seriously, I fully agree. I think you nailed it. Add alcohol to the list of drugs, put a set of COMMON SENSE laws as to crime and punishment while under the influence of any substance covered by the statute, and enforce those laws.
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CPT Jack Durish
Sgt Richard Buckner - I will be happy to beg your forgiveness if you'll explain how I have offended you. For now, I'm only sorry for not understanding
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CPT Jack Durish
PO3 Steven Sherrill - One of the greatest problems in the war on drugs is that prohibition has seriously corrupted law enforcement. Maybe that's the lesson: Bad laws lead to bad law enforcement
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There is no good reason why America should keep dumping money down the bottomless pit that is the war on drugs. One need only to look to Portugal's example to know that legalization works. Instead of wasting billions on hunting traffickers and incarcerating users like we do, Portugal spends their money on rehab and preventing addiction. Despite the nay-sayers, all the indicators went down -- crime rate, addiction rate, and yes, even usage.
And our states that have legalized recreational use now have more money than they know what to do with.
And our states that have legalized recreational use now have more money than they know what to do with.
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SSG Ed Mikus I think that we need to make the illicit drugs legal, overturn drug convictions, tax drugs like alcohol and tobacco, and put the same legal restrictions that are put on alcohol as far as age, operation of machinery, etc... We have been fighting a "war on drugs" since the 80's that has had no lasting effects.
fiscally, we are spending 15 Billion dollars a year on something that has no chance of succeeding. It is the law enforcement equivalent of the F-35, a hole that they throw money into. The amount spent comes out to $500 per second being spent on the useless drug war. Additionally, the legalization of currently illicit drugs would open up new businesses. Tax revenue would be increased. Agriculture would suddenly have a new source of revenue. The new businesses would lead to new and varied companies in the stock markets, or at the least a diversity in the pharmaceutical industry.
From a social perspective, we have the highest prison population on the planet. We have overcrowded and underfunded prisons. If those in on drug related charges were to be released, that would go a long way to alleviating that problem.
Now, the biggest problem out of the gate with legalizing drugs, and overturning convictions is that it would add roughly two million workers into the job market. This would cause a spike in unemployment that would drive the markets crazy. There would also be potential push back from those in the drug trade. Some of these folks are multi billionaires just off of the illicit product. They could react violently to the sudden devaluing of their product. Even if they began processing for legal consumption, the price would drop, and a great deal would go to taxes. Once the initial culture shock wears off, I think that the legalization of drugs would be no worse for society than alcohol. The majority of users would be upstanding citizens, but you would have the few shitbags, as with every cultural subset, that make people want all banned.
fiscally, we are spending 15 Billion dollars a year on something that has no chance of succeeding. It is the law enforcement equivalent of the F-35, a hole that they throw money into. The amount spent comes out to $500 per second being spent on the useless drug war. Additionally, the legalization of currently illicit drugs would open up new businesses. Tax revenue would be increased. Agriculture would suddenly have a new source of revenue. The new businesses would lead to new and varied companies in the stock markets, or at the least a diversity in the pharmaceutical industry.
From a social perspective, we have the highest prison population on the planet. We have overcrowded and underfunded prisons. If those in on drug related charges were to be released, that would go a long way to alleviating that problem.
Now, the biggest problem out of the gate with legalizing drugs, and overturning convictions is that it would add roughly two million workers into the job market. This would cause a spike in unemployment that would drive the markets crazy. There would also be potential push back from those in the drug trade. Some of these folks are multi billionaires just off of the illicit product. They could react violently to the sudden devaluing of their product. Even if they began processing for legal consumption, the price would drop, and a great deal would go to taxes. Once the initial culture shock wears off, I think that the legalization of drugs would be no worse for society than alcohol. The majority of users would be upstanding citizens, but you would have the few shitbags, as with every cultural subset, that make people want all banned.
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