Posted on May 10, 2015
Do you think military service members should be prosecuted under UCMJ for disrespect to the Commander-in-Chief? I say absolutely, YES!
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CW5 Roy Rucker Sr.
I think you need to define a lot of things in your question. What are you defining as 'disrespect'. You make the statement 'Ultimate Disrespect', how so? Maybe I am missing something?
So you are in favor of going back and prosecuting those military member making comments about President George W. Bush's mental abilities or just the President that you are currently endorsing or supporting?
Last, even as soldiers, we are citizens and this is a Republic, and while we should not be disrespectful of those WE have elect to REPRESENT us, they still are supposed to be REPRESENTING us.
I think you need to define a lot of things in your question. What are you defining as 'disrespect'. You make the statement 'Ultimate Disrespect', how so? Maybe I am missing something?
So you are in favor of going back and prosecuting those military member making comments about President George W. Bush's mental abilities or just the President that you are currently endorsing or supporting?
Last, even as soldiers, we are citizens and this is a Republic, and while we should not be disrespectful of those WE have elect to REPRESENT us, they still are supposed to be REPRESENTING us.
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CW5 Roy Rucker Sr.
I didn't add the photo to my initial post (The RallyPoint Admins did) nor did I include the words "The Ultimate Disrespect. Both the photo and extra words have been deleted.
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CW5 Roy Rucker Sr.
My question is in reference to actions of disrespect taken against the position of the CINC, regardless of what the President looks like or what political affiliation he holds.
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MSG Brad Sand
CW5 Roy Rucker Sr.
Okay, disregarding th 'Ultimate Disrespect', what is your answer to the body of my reply? What do you define as 'disrespect' in regards to the President and his role as Commander in Chief? Along the same lines, there were multiple occasions during my career where I told superiors they were wrong...because they were wrong...or that more was needed from them. Is that disrespect? I would say no, but I have encountered some who would try and say that it was.
Okay, disregarding th 'Ultimate Disrespect', what is your answer to the body of my reply? What do you define as 'disrespect' in regards to the President and his role as Commander in Chief? Along the same lines, there were multiple occasions during my career where I told superiors they were wrong...because they were wrong...or that more was needed from them. Is that disrespect? I would say no, but I have encountered some who would try and say that it was.
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No one in uniform should not disrespect POTUS, chain of command, officers, SNCO's and NCO's period. There is no room for disrespect and misconduct and sometimes we disagree with some policies or rules but we still follow orders. We are taught to be respectful and professional at all times both on and off duty and if you can't do that, you shouldn't even be in the military.
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You may not like or respect the person in the office but you still must respect the office it self.He may not deserve our respect but the position and rank certainly do. As much as I may not like it he is still the Commander and Chief
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Yes, he's a worthless sack of skin who could care less about the military. Wake up and quit drinking the Kool-Aid.
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SFC Robert Wheeler
MSG, maybe you better return your pay check or your retirement check and get the hell out of Dodge. You also need to look at your conservative heroes in Congress that has done more damage to the military and veterans than enemy we have ever met.
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SPC John Decker
Neither of these two articles seem to cover a non-verbal act of disrespect. Also, in my mind, the actions of a group(however large) of service members showing disrespect to the President would not bring discredit on the Armed Forces. Part of our oath is to protect the constitution. This president, in my opinion, seems to be trying to destroy it.
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No matter how bad the commander and chief you need to,keep your lips sealed while serving
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Like any higher command figure, you have to be respectful. I use the mother and father model. You don't disrespect your parents? Well, the same goes for anyone else. Be decent to the lower grades or higher grades. But, if you want to express your opinion, DO IT IN A RESPECTFUL WAY, rather you like the person or not, agree to disagree.
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Thank God I am retired, I can say what I want now about POTUS, that is until they threaten my disability pay for voicing my thoughts.
Where is my foil hat?
Where is my foil hat?
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Military Members are corrected by their superiors for disrespect towards our Commander in Chief, the issue of prosecution is at the Commander discretion meaning their command chain to include the Commander In Chief. Most disrespect comes from biases, misguided beliefs or ideas, prejudices and from accepting the ideas from individuals that are all smoke but no fire. So nothing is gained from using UCMJ, when corrective matters of education are more appropriate.
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Chief, I think it is already punishable under UCMJ for "contemptuous words" against a superior or higher ranking individual. I forget the exact words.
Article 88
Article 88
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