Posted on May 10, 2015
CW5 Roy Rucker Sr.
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SSgt Forensic Meteorological Consultant
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His policies are bullshit 98% of them.
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MSgt Manuel Diaz
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As with any superior, always respect the rank, especially in public; however in private one should be able to share respectful honest opinion without fear of prosecution in or out of uniform. We are not communist north Korea; however anyone could accuse you of an out of context remark and we should still have some constitutional rights with out prosecution by political correctness police... somewhat like Muslim religious police.
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If done under the auspices of the uniform, absolutely. Out of uniform, when conducting yourself as a civilian, to include social media, then you have the right to voice or write any opinion you wish. However, as soon as you are back in that uniform or say something like "as a soldier who has served etc etc etc..." you relinquish your right to vocalize/publish your opinion and must conduct yourself with the professionalism and honor befit your service. Fail to do that and absolutely you should be subject to the UCMJ as was intended.
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People take the actions of the president so personally.
I don't understand why it is so difficult to respect the rank. Most people wouldn't come on this site and bad mouth their commander by name, let alone do it to their face. Why is it the line gets blurred in SM's mind for POTUS? I don't really understand. I did not like Bush Jr. I thought he was lacking in common sense & intelligence, I can't say I'm the biggest fan of the current Commander in Chief, but regardless of my personal feelings, badmouthing him is a freedom I gave up when I swore my oath.
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SSG Richard Reilly
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You never gave up that right you swore to obey the orders of the president. Not like him and talk highly of him. The best rule is just to not talk your political opinion in the military. It leads to discontent and arguements that really are just as stupid as the politicians people talk about.
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SGT Joe Sabedra
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When it comes to command in public whether it be an officer, NCO or even the CIC disrespect can not be tolerated.

Now face to face there is a lot that can be said that really gets the point across if done so in a reapectful manner.

(Sir when I leave this mans Army I will always remember you for the person that you are and never miss you. )
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SSG Roger Ayscue
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I am glad that I am retired because I despise this person. I have absolutely NO RESPECT for im as an individual.....

He NEVER wore a uniform and has never put himself in Harms Way for his country, thus he has never earned my respect. I respect those that have earned the respect and no one else.

LET ME BE CLEAR...I despise him because he does not have the intestinal fortitude to defend this Country in a uniform and not from Air Force One, and also because I consider him to be a Marxist.
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CPL Derrick Grady Sr.
CPL Derrick Grady Sr.
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We have a lot of Government Officers who never served in the military but is in charge of something that deals with the military one way or the other. It's a number of Presidents that never served this country and they never had a problem with their orders being followed or shown disrespect like President Obama has, I think it's because he's black and had made a lot of folks look bad. There was a lot of NCO's and CO's that I didn't like when I was in the military but I followed orders because that is what great soldiers do.
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SSG Roger Ayscue
SSG Roger Ayscue
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CPL Grady, I could care less about his race.

I just have no respect for a man that did not even attempt to defend his country. Let me rephrase that...a male that did not even attempt to defend his country...Because a MAN serves his country, he does not make excuses for why he did not.
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Chief Rucker,

I have downgraded this for the reason I completely disagree. (This is already policy).
We already know that is taboo and highly frowned upon to disrespect the Commander in Chief. However, I am going to ask a poignant question, and feel free to answer it honestly: did you like or not like President Bush? Or what about previous Presidents? Did you have something to say about it? ( I only threw President Bush up here as he was the last one in office before President Obama).

Like it or not, Soldiers have an ability to think and utilize decision making skills to form an opinion. The ability to voice it and make it heard are a complete set of complex issues altogether. I think there needs to be a fine line. I dislike the President because of xyz, and here are the facts and a supporting argument in a logical, respectful, tactful manner, is far better than I hate the President because potato.

Last but not least-perception is reality. When servicemembers are having a hard time with confidence in the leadership as is (just look at all the scandals, problems, and other issues that have arised, along with the ever shrinking budget problems, drawdowns, and mandatory training that comes with it *do more with less* mentality), yes I think that there are problems with morale as is. Whether it truly is President Obama's fault (or insert any President in here, I am just placing the name as that is our Current Commander in Chief), or not, if the troops perceive there is a problem then as he is the end all be all for American servicemembers, then its the President's fault.

Punishing them for becoming adaptive, thinking, and forming an opinion is a detriment to their ability to become a leader. I am not saying let them run amuck and create anarchy and war within the ranks. But I also don't think we should punish a soldiers career via UCMJ simply because they don't like the President. I am not one for politics-its above my pay grade, I dislike them in general, it causes stress and strain on any relationship, and its far too complex for me to really get a good grasp to form an opinion. So I stay out of it: however, I do like to have a stance and firm finger on the pulse of the current political issues. We exercise the right to vote and free speech (within reason).

Please also understand that if I am going to go out of my way to write my dissertation and form an opinion, I have done so with the utmost respect and tact that I can muster, simply because it is a hot button topic within the ranks. If more people would argue like this rather than simply throw an insult out, it cannot be considered disrespect but more so a legitimate gripe.

However, outright slurs and disrespect of that nature, yes, just like any NCO, Officer, commisioned or otherwise, should be treated the same. Troop comes up in front of a formation and calls the President a bunch of slurs, slay em. But this is already policy. AR600-2, UCMJ, and any other punitive or administrative means to throw them under the bus.
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So you are equal opportunity. I believe you are saying respect the Office, not the man, correct?
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CW5 Roy Rucker Sr.
CW5 Roy Rucker Sr.
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Yes, I'm speaking of the Office of the CINC. It doesn't matter who's holding the position.
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Of that you and I agree. I think enforcing UCMJ on the whole deal is going to be asking to bring down a whole slew of action against 3/4 of the military. I do not speak for anyone but overhearing a lot of conversations people aren't happy.
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CW5 Roy Rucker Sr.
CW5 Roy Rucker Sr.
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The RallyPoint Administrators added the photo of the current POTUS to stir up a little controversy or I guess to see what type of responses would be generated about President Obama.

I deleted it.
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SFC Robert Wheeler
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I don't see it as an option. The minute you disrespect to anyone, it should have consequences. I could not stand George HW Bush but as long as I was in uniform, I respected him. I also did not tolerate and disrespect from my soldiers for the CINC.
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SSG Roger Ayscue
SSG Roger Ayscue
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I respect the OFFICE but NEVER the man unless he earns it, and unless you have time IN UNIFORM, earning it is really really tough in my book

AIRBORNE!
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SSG John Erny
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1. I have said it here many times that talking about the POTUS is a very bad Idea for service members. Those of us who are Veterans or Retired should not lead those who still serve in a discussion that could cost some one their career.

2. We do not want the DOD to take notice of this great place we call rally point in a negative light. Off limits mean any thing?
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SSgt Data Chief
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This is a pretty tricky question as you have 1st Amendment rights. BUT you must also respect your superiors regardless of gender/ religion/ creed as they are elected by the country/ voters. I say while in uniform they cannot get into political debates, thats why the UCMJ states you cannot wear your uniform to political rallies. While off uniform and not representing the country, they are well within their rights and shouldnt be an issue.
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