Posted on Mar 12, 2016
Do you think, that our military will recover, after this past few years?
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We were paid well for so long. The agendas and the half-heartedness hs cost us too much. What is your take. Sorry about the choices, if they do not meet expectations,
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Recover from what? If you were paid well in the past, you haven't had a pay cut that I'm aware of. And for those who think that the changes allowing more Americans who are willing to volunteer to possibly give their lives for their country to serve in the military is something that we need to recover from, take a look at the picture posted with the question. There's two women in it. After WWII, the commandant of the Marine Corps fought vigorously to prevent women from serving in the active duty Marine Corps. He said they had no place in it, and the Marine Corps shouldn't get used for social experiments. I wonder what the woman marine in the picture feels about that attitude.
So there's nothing to recover from. Downsizing happens all the time. It goes in cycles. And what "half heartedness" are we talking about? Does anyone really think the military and their families would be better off today if we had maintained over 100,000 troops in both Iraq and Afghanistan, fighting and dying in place of the host nation militaries who have no desire to die for their own freedom? Or stick a few divisions in Syria for the next thirty years so we can ensure that the next generation of Americans will be able to live through a nonstop war? And we do all that so that in 20 or 30 years we finally leave, after thousands of dead Americans and trillions of dollars spent, and the day we leave it all goes back to the way it was before we got there.
If by half heartedness you mean a reluctance to use US troops to fight in local conflicts for decades when we know that the solutions will not be determined by military force, then I'm all for half heartedness. So what exactly is it that we need to recover from, and what different policies do you expect a new POTUS to implement that will change things?
So there's nothing to recover from. Downsizing happens all the time. It goes in cycles. And what "half heartedness" are we talking about? Does anyone really think the military and their families would be better off today if we had maintained over 100,000 troops in both Iraq and Afghanistan, fighting and dying in place of the host nation militaries who have no desire to die for their own freedom? Or stick a few divisions in Syria for the next thirty years so we can ensure that the next generation of Americans will be able to live through a nonstop war? And we do all that so that in 20 or 30 years we finally leave, after thousands of dead Americans and trillions of dollars spent, and the day we leave it all goes back to the way it was before we got there.
If by half heartedness you mean a reluctance to use US troops to fight in local conflicts for decades when we know that the solutions will not be determined by military force, then I'm all for half heartedness. So what exactly is it that we need to recover from, and what different policies do you expect a new POTUS to implement that will change things?
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1SG Jack Crutcher
Very well said, each older generation of soldiers thinks the next generation of soldiers are screwed up. Just think what the soldiers of WWI, WWII, and Viet Nam veterans think of todays Army. I am sure they would love to have the equipment, pay, respect and other perts today Army have. Could you imagine what those soldiers went through and not to mention how they are still treated today. Again sir, very well said.
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CPO Greg Frazho
Your skepticism is well-founded, sir. This is what years, if not decades, of politicians with little to no service under their belts making decisions and progressive politics as a whole (there's a hot potato) have wrought.
As Patton once said about Montgomery, "He's more concerned about not losing a war than he is about winning one." By the same token, we're more concerned about not offending somebody, somehow, somewhere than we are about being victorious in battle.
WTF, over??!!
As Patton once said about Montgomery, "He's more concerned about not losing a war than he is about winning one." By the same token, we're more concerned about not offending somebody, somehow, somewhere than we are about being victorious in battle.
WTF, over??!!
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Capt Tom Brown
Right on about social and cultural experimentation using gvt employees as guinea pigs to implement an ideological philosophy is about as low as one can go. Which one of 'them' is going to fall on his/her sword if and when this experimentation doesn't work out so well in combat and the bodies start coming back. Answer: no one will be seen or heard from.
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Capt Jeff S.
Have the statistics come out of same sex sexual assualts since the repeal of DADT? I'd be willing to bet that they number of incidences has jumped considerably and it is not being given the attention it deserves because that doesn't fit the Administration's PC narrative and Progressive Agenda.
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I think the military services and the military personnel will eventually recover SSgt (Join to see). Once sequestration is no longer applicable and we have a POTUS and Congress that has a focused foreign policy agenda things will be to shape up.
I know several of the 4-stars who command the COCOMs and I have confidence that they will do a great job over the next few years to both guide their command and work to improve the military services. Once we have a new POTUS, who hopefully will be much more conservative and consistent than our current POTUS, the bully pulpit can be used to help the people of the USA honor the military service members and veterans.
Rebuilding the recruitment processes so that qualified people will be drawn to the military is important. For DoD in particular NORTHCOM and NGB working with DHS and the States to share relevant intel in real time and protect service members at home against Islamic and other terrorists will hopefully be a good sign.
I know several of the 4-stars who command the COCOMs and I have confidence that they will do a great job over the next few years to both guide their command and work to improve the military services. Once we have a new POTUS, who hopefully will be much more conservative and consistent than our current POTUS, the bully pulpit can be used to help the people of the USA honor the military service members and veterans.
Rebuilding the recruitment processes so that qualified people will be drawn to the military is important. For DoD in particular NORTHCOM and NGB working with DHS and the States to share relevant intel in real time and protect service members at home against Islamic and other terrorists will hopefully be a good sign.
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LTC Stephen F.
Capt Tom Brown - can you see the end of my ending sentence now "DHS and the States to share relevant intel in real time and protect service members at home against Islamic and other terrorists will hopefully be a good sign."?
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