Posted on Jul 9, 2015
Do you think we will ever get boots on the ground to combat ISIS?
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If so, how long do you think it will be before we do, and do you support such an action against ISIS?
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We already have many "advisor" on the ground right now....when we fail to know our history (e.g. Vietnam War), we are doomed to repeat it.
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PO1 Brian Schletty
I fear you are right --- we support many of the "special advisors" now. They are there in a non-combat role, but still expected to train/lead by example, so you know what that means. Lots of jobs opening up to re-hab the bases we abandoned/turned over to the host nation. Unless we go in with a complete force, and have full support of our citizens, I think it will be a costly, deadly, and ultimately, regrettable affair.
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We don't need OUR boots on the ground we need those facing an existential threat to put their boots on the ground. The Turks , the Saudis etc. you can kill every ISIS/ Daesh fighter but you can't kill the ideology.
It's the ideology that brings more fighters into the conflict. You can't kill an idea.
It's the ideology that brings more fighters into the conflict. You can't kill an idea.
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LTC Bink Romanick
Just saw in the morning news that a suspected ISIS bomb went off in Istanbul. The Turks waited too long
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Yes, PVT (Join to see), I do.
I think we already do.
I think that it is a bad idea, unless we intend to get much more serious than we are now.
I think we will have to wait until January 20, 2017 to locate that level of seriousness.
I think we already do.
I think that it is a bad idea, unless we intend to get much more serious than we are now.
I think we will have to wait until January 20, 2017 to locate that level of seriousness.
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We already do, look through youtube and other more eccentric site to find videos of our "advisors" over there advising ISIS to go to hell. SF,GI, and Wing assets have all had hard engagements over there.
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There is one way to do this, US Combat troops with the absence of Politicians and the press. And it's over in 6 months.
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LTC Bink Romanick
So when was the last time we beat an idea with troops. I call BS on the politicians comment. You obviously don't understand the nature of this conflict.
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SFC Everett Oliver
You can think of another way to beat them? And it has been the politician that has plagued the Military since Vietnam. Take out the stupidity of many of the ROE and keep the press out of the way and I believe the American warrior is still the best in the world. But not with one hand tied behind their back.
You certainly aren't going to convert them.
Maybe you can enlighten me on the nature of the conflict. I see Islamic radicals who want to meet Allah. I'm more than happy to help arrange that meeting.
You certainly aren't going to convert them.
Maybe you can enlighten me on the nature of the conflict. I see Islamic radicals who want to meet Allah. I'm more than happy to help arrange that meeting.
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There is something more going on with that then we are led to believe. Balance of power in that region is a mess and I don't think we win if we take out ISIS at this point. Unfortunate but true
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SGT Jeremiah B.
Sgt Billy Alt, I don't think there's anything "more" that we can't see. It's plain to see for anyone paying attention - The region is a mess and no one has the will to commit. If Jordan, Turkey and Saudi Arabia can't must the strength to deal with an existential threat on their border, I can't see how we could possibly come out ahead.
Actually, I think half of them are hoping ISIS will wipe out the Kurds. THEN they'll fight like they mean it.
Actually, I think half of them are hoping ISIS will wipe out the Kurds. THEN they'll fight like they mean it.
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Yes, I think we will eventually have groundpounders there again. I also think it would be a mistake. At some point we have to stop fishing for the Iraqis and teach them how to fish. America can't always be riding to the rescue. A nominally inferior force has been able to take over such large swaths of territory because the warrior ethos of Iraqis is virtually non-existent. They flee at the slightest hint that the battle is tougher than previously thought. My solution: train them, give them intelligence and act in an overwatch role to build up their confidence. Fighting their battles is not a tenable solution for every single internal conflict they face. Whether this is done now or after a new President is elected as someone insinuated makes no difference. This should be our policy regardless of the party steering the ship.
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We probably will. It will probably be a terrible mistake. Daesh is a symptom, not the illness itself. If we get dragged into a ground war, it'll be right back to getting blown the @$%# up by sectarian militias the moment Daesh is put down.
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