Posted on May 2, 2015
TSgt Christopher D.
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In a given day, I speak to many professionals about investing. Many well-educated people typically respond with "I manage my own investments," which I've come to understand usually means they aren't doing any investing. Too often, they aren't even doing any saving. As vets and retirees, we have resources available to us 'free of charge,' but after examining plenty of 'free' services and packages available to vets from big name companies, I'm less than impressed. If you're using a financial advisor or investment company, which one do you use? How did that advisor earn your business? If you're not using an advisor, what are you doing to prepare for life after working?
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My world is a little different and you really don't hold leadership positions until you make E-8, up until then you are just a guy on a team. Once I made MSG I would include financial planning into my quarterly counseling, I was shocked to see how many senior E-7s I had with nothing but a savings account and the long term plan of their military retirement. It was staggering to see intelligent grown men consider a savings account an investment.

I do manage my own investments and have done pretty well especially with the extra investing power of deployments but I am getting to the point where I have amassed an amount that pushes past my investment knowledge. I have been a long time customer with Fidelity and have had no complaints with their website function, knowledge, of investment funds. In fact as the year comes to a close I plan to have them manage both accounts I hold with them.

Many companies have minimums before they will manage your money but I advise guys I have who are new to the game to just call USAA and start their if they have an account. You can literally tell them you want a Roth IRA, how much you have/can afford a month and how much risk you are willing to take.
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TSgt Christopher D.
TSgt Christopher D.
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1SG (Join to see), thank you for incorporating finances into your counseling. It is so important, and I wish more leaders would be counseling junior soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines on this as well. Kudos, sir!
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TSgt Christopher D. Thanks, here is the tough thing, it walks the fine line of education and advising, advising being in the off limits category and I think that puts a lot of leaders off. Additionally it is kind of a private thing and lastly most guys don't have a clue! That last one circles back to what you bring up, if you have no knowledge you can't very well teach it right?
We had the Vice Chief of Staff here a few months ago and that was my question to him. The talk of a 401 pillared retirement plan is being tossed around and my question was how far along is the education, planning, and integration of it coming. The leadership at the highest levels have continued to fail the junior ranks in the importance of investing for the future.
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SFC Michael Jackson, MBA
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I am a financial advisor/ investment advisor representative with primerica advisors. i possess the knowledge / experience to manage my own portfolio. i do manage my own investments. yet, as a professional, i still have another advisor review my investments.
working with an advisor is important to reaching your reaching your goals. They are keys and strategies that professionals employ to keep you on teack. They can help predict future costs, help manage risks, and help you determine investments for your particular situation.
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TSgt Christopher D.
TSgt Christopher D.
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Thank you, SFC Jackson. I am also a financial advisor, but with Edward Jones. The insights in your second paragraph ring true for everyone. I just wish everyone believed it. ;)
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SFC Michael Jackson, MBA
SFC Michael Jackson, MBA
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@tsgt Christopher D,
the important thing is we're to assist. I think most of us agree, there's a need for what we do.
the statistics are not in the favor of those do not work with a professional, regardless of company.
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Can't ever go wrong with a second set of eyes to add some perspective!
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Lt Col Fred Marheine, PMP
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Love this question and very interested in seeing the responses...though I'm gonna go out on a limb and predict there won't be that many.

First job after retirement was as a financial advisor with First Command Financial Planning. I know there are a bunch of strongly held opinions about that company and it's predecessors - and I have a few myself - but at the time being an advisor was my dream job. By the time I left active duty, I had all the securities licenses and most of the corporate training complete and went from out-processing to my first meeting with a client (under supervision, but still). I left 2 years later for a number of reasons, the most pressing of which was kids approaching college and insufficient income to stay on glide-path. For the record, I left active duty in July 2007...right before the crash...great timing to be a new advisor with a company that was completely overhauling their business model and compensation system during the biggest down-turn in recent memory.

I do most of my own planning now, though I do occasionally use my First Command advisor for a second opinion / sanity check. I've moved all of my accounts to USAA simply because of the convenience of having banking, savings, investments, and P&C insurance in one place. With a recent divorce, I've got some significant work to get done, but am on course for my version of success at age 70.

What am I doing? I cover down on risk management via insurance products from my employer and purchased privately. I have an aggressive monthly spending plan (aka budget) that sets aside savings and investments up front. I'm currently over-committing to these activities to recover from the divorce, which drives my discretionary spending down into the negligible range (hence typing responses on RP on a beautiful Saturday afternoon). Bottom line is I'm working it hard for the next 3 years to try and get out in front of the power curve rather than trying to catch back up.
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TSgt Christopher D.
TSgt Christopher D.
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Sir, my hats off to you. I know all too well what kind of havoc divorce can wreak in your finances.

I considered a job with First Command. I did not work for them, so I can't say anything good or bad about them.

I am curious though... would you agree with me that, without some education and/or training in investments, it isn't really a good idea for people to manage their own investments without an advisor?

Thanks for your response!
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Lt Col Fred Marheine, PMP
Lt Col Fred Marheine, PMP
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I absolutely agree that effectively managing an investment portfolio - even if it's just your own - requires a significant investment of time and energy to first become grounded in the field (training/education) and as well as an investment of resources to access / become proficient in the tools / techniques / instruments available in the industry. For a person to believe they can do this themselves based on what they read in Forbes, see on CNBC, or hear recommended on weekend talk radio is absolutely stunning to me.

Which is not to say there are any special requirements for becoming proficient - a person could learn to run their own portfolio, just like a person could fix their BMW if they decided the wanted to...and then went to mechanic school, and invested in a bunch of tools, and subscribed to BMW's parts databases, etc, etc.

I also agree the vast majority of the "I do it myself" folks are actually in the "I always meant to do something, but haven't had time yet and will get to it next month" bin.
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