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As a member of the so-called "New" Navy, this question has been asked and talked about around my command for the last few months. I'd like to hear some different perspectives about it
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Edited 10 y ago
Posted 10 y ago
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Doesn't bother me, but I believe we will never have a truly gender neutral military.
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If ya cant hack it then pack it.
If they got it then use it!
Male or female doesnt matter.
I know men (Officers and enlisted) who cower at the sight of blood "no stones Jones"and women who will stand their ground no matter the odds.
In the Corps; ist easy we are all referred to as Marines - many in the ranks forget that the title is earned not given away...Never has been so start acting like men and let them make the effort before you start slaughtering reputations...
If they got it then use it!
Male or female doesnt matter.
I know men (Officers and enlisted) who cower at the sight of blood "no stones Jones"and women who will stand their ground no matter the odds.
In the Corps; ist easy we are all referred to as Marines - many in the ranks forget that the title is earned not given away...Never has been so start acting like men and let them make the effort before you start slaughtering reputations...
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LCpl Cody Collins
Amen, Brother ! The Marine Corps doesn't just train you, they indoctrinate you. Weather your a man or a woman.
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I think it's pretty silly myself. Men and women are different (thank God) and we should be honest enough to accept and cherish those differences. The jobs women can do, they should be allowed to do, providing they meet precisely the same criteria as the men. The military is not, or should not be, an area where we engage in social experimentation.
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If I have a problem with females, it's my problem, not theirs. And it's up to me to fix it. My job isn't to get my panties being twisted by the scary women working with me.
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In combat arms units you can call your battle buddy the b---- word and get away with it, when your new battle buddy is female will the consequences be the same? I think the word is degrading but I was also combat arms. Just asking. I think I see problems waiting to happen especially when the automatic weapon carrier that's been trained on that weapon finds out she's pregnant 3 weeks before deployment.
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Yea it bothers me a lot. If an individual is already confused as to what sex they are ( Male / Female ) . They are not ready to serve in the military, Unit cohesion is an utmost priority, and it is not the place for anyone to decide this week or the next if they are male or female. And I don't care to shit, shower or shave with a woman who thinks they are a man or vis verse. I'm sure if the enemy ever captures one of these confused types, they will remind you in a minute , what sex you are.
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This requirement is just a twist of the knife for good measure by the social and cultural ideologues who have imposed their views and philosophies on their employees - the unfortunate service man and woman. Just one more step in the imposition of an experimental change on people who have no say in the matter by the current group of liberal ins. Such manipulation would be pretty impossible in the private sector.
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Here's the thing.
If you can join a group and be accepted by the group for what you bring to the group, I fail to see the problem.
Now, implicit and unsaid is that depending on what group you are joining the baseline of acceptable output, mentally &/or physically may rise far above a service set minimum. When those informal baselines fall due to integration - that's when we have harmed our Services. Unfortunately those baselines are hard to build, once degraded, it'll be even harder to re-raise them.
If you can join a group and be accepted by the group for what you bring to the group, I fail to see the problem.
Now, implicit and unsaid is that depending on what group you are joining the baseline of acceptable output, mentally &/or physically may rise far above a service set minimum. When those informal baselines fall due to integration - that's when we have harmed our Services. Unfortunately those baselines are hard to build, once degraded, it'll be even harder to re-raise them.
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The logical side of me says "no," at the end of the day it's just words that have to be changed. But, as always, it's the idiots that come up with this "stuff" that bother me. It's almost as if this is the solution to equality within the ranks.
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PO2 Brandon Grier
So does this whole gender neutral thing mean that men and women are going to wear the same dress uniforms and covers? I would like to see a female Sailor in Cracker Jacks and Dixie Cup!
So does this whole gender neutral thing mean that men and women are going to wear the same dress uniforms and covers? I would like to see a female Sailor in Cracker Jacks and Dixie Cup!
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PO1 John Miller
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Seeing as how I was in the Navy and assigned to ships for the majority of my career, there wasn't much cause for Sailors to wear body armor. I'm referring to the "gender neutralization" of job titles.
As far as body armor is concerned, of course there should be a female version. Last I checked, females are physically different than us males.
Seeing as how I was in the Navy and assigned to ships for the majority of my career, there wasn't much cause for Sailors to wear body armor. I'm referring to the "gender neutralization" of job titles.
As far as body armor is concerned, of course there should be a female version. Last I checked, females are physically different than us males.
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CPT Pedro Meza
PO1 John Miller - Yes body armor needs to be shaped to fit the warrior, more so now that women can officially be in combat, which is probably the excuse why there was no female armor made. Silly but true.
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