Posted on Jul 9, 2018
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If I separate from the active duty Air Force as a captain with 6 years time in grade, incur a break in service, then join the Army National Guard, do I start in the ARNG as a day-1 captain, or is there a more complicated rule-set that governs my new ARNG time in grade? Does anyone know the Army reg that covers this?
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I was an active duty SSG, with just under 39 months TIG. Then I had a break in service. When joining the National Guard I was told I would need to agree to a rank reduction to SGT, but was told that since I had been a SGT previously for 26 months before promotion to SSG my DOR would be calculated to go back 26 months, and I saw this entered into a database by individuals at MEPS just before signing my contract. This promise was not honored, however, and once I was in my TIG was reset to zero, as though I were a newly minted SGT fresh from the sham shield brigade.
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MAJ Rene De La Rosa
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SGT Stephen Seale That was truly a travesty of justice.
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When I switched over from reserves to active duty my DOR was reset to my first day in active duty. I lost a lot of time.
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SGT(P) Cargo Handler
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Retention will have to do a 1506 to get you back on track. You are getting under paid and the army owes you money. Right now I’m waiting for retention to fix mine. I’m getting paid as an E4 with no time in service. When I switched to active duty I didn’t have a break in service. So now they owe me from the day I enlisted until the day they fix it.
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CSM Rik Williamson
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Branch is irrelevant. You should retain your time in grade/DOR unless there was some type of administrative action that would preclude retention. For promotion to O4/Major you'd still be required to be selected and receive Fed Rec. I've known officers that went Army to Air with no problems as far as rank is concerned.
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SFC(P) Owner
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I was promoted to SSG in 2004, I separated from service in 2009. I re-enlisted in 2020 and retired in 2023. I'm now being told I lost my time in grade as a SSG and the clock started over when I re-entered service. No adverse discharged or anything. Will this affect my retirement?
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SFC(P) Owner
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Many sources say I lost no time and others say I lost all TIG as a SSG but I was submitted for promotion prior to retirement and denied because I'm over 57.
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Does AD-to-ARNG time in grade reset after a break in service?
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I should clarify: I’m seeking a way to reset my time in grade to become eligible to try out for Special Forces. As an almost-major, I’m pretty useless to a prospective SF unit, but as a newer captain, I’d still have plenty of time to serve on a team. Is there a way to reset my captain clock? Are there waivers that would let me stay a captain long enough to be useful to a Special Forces ARNG unit?

I’m assuming here that ARNG operates in the same “up-or-out” paradigm that the active duty Air Force does. I.e. you’re either getting promoted or separated, but you can’t be a captain for more than 6 years. If that’s not the case, someone please feel free to correct me.
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LTC Tradoc Capability Manager Abct/Recon
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You can’t be promoted to the next grade until you are placed in a slot for that grade. If you get selected for SF in the ARNG, even as a senior Captain, you’ll serve in that grade until selected for MAJ. You should be good without having to worry about a “reset”.
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Greetings!

I joined this forum seeking information about trying out for ARNG Special Forces as a senior O-3. I am a USMC captain, and I'll have over 6 years TIG when leave active duty.

Did you ever receive a definitive answer about this?
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