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No it isnt..... I have been looking for a way to wear my rams head for years. First world problems.....
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They are still working on finishing it. The school 3 OIC stated that it was still in the process for approval, waiting for the updates to the awards process. Still just limited to certain states in the Guard/Reserve for wear, and even then people still don't put it in the right order of precedence.
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The badge is authorized for wear on the uniform of Vermont National Guard soldiers and those Army National Guard units belonging to the 86th Infantry Brigade Combat Team (Mountain) from other states, such as:

1st Battalion, 102nd Infantry Regiment (Mountain) (CT NG)
1st Battalion, 157th Infantry Regiment (Mountain) (CO NG)
3rd Battalion, 172nd Infantry Regiment (Mountain) (NH NG, ME NG, and VT NG)
1st Battalion, 101st Field Artillery Regiment (MA NG and VT NG)

State awards for ARNG soldiers. Army National Guard personnel are authorized to wear State awards under applicable State laws or regulations when assigned to the ARNG under the command and control of the Governor or Adjutant General, under the provisions of title 32, United States Code.
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Does anybody know if the Ram's Head badge is ever going to be authorized for wear by active component Soldiers?
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Any word on if the rams head will happen for AD?
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Negative. The original school was at Jerico, Vermont and is run by NG. There is also the North Western Training Center in Alaska, ran by Active Army, which runs the Basic Military Mountaineering Course and awards the E identifier.
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SPC Legal Nco
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i know of a case where individual graduated from the USMC's mountain warfare training center's basic mtn leader course and years later joined Guard. He was awarded the identifier and was allowed to wear the device.
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Isn't that specific to a certain USANG BDE? Up in the New England states area?
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CPT Jim Schwebach
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The school was originally spun up by the Vermont National Guard around 1981 or so. At the time I was living in Burlington and was asked to join the Guard and help organize the school and course curriculum. Unfortunately I was in the process of transferring to the puzzle palace in Dallas and couldn't accept.
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yeah NG only as far as I know, I was in 1-102nd INF out of CT and some of my soldiers earned them things.
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Isn't there a way to send it up the chain? There was that article in Army Times about creating a Master Infantry Badge for those who have obtained their CIB and EIB, as well as possibly a Master Medic Badge for those who have obtained their CMB and EMB.

There should be a way to get this to... Heraldry I guess? With enough support it could become a thing.
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its already a thing. you can buy it. just not wear it unless you are NG
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So NG Award only then, ok.
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What is a Ram's Head device?
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Skill badge awarded for earning/possessing the "E" mountaineering identifier
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Wow. I've never seen that before. Or heard of it.
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